Not necessarily, You could easily live in Singapore or Hong Kong and just jump a quick flight to China to fly out.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Not necessarily, You could easily live in Singapore or Hong Kong and just jump a quick flight to China to fly out.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
This is solid advice. Only thing I'd add to that, is find an extracurricular at your company and get very involved in that. There's no better way to network with your company leadership than being involved in/driving non-profit work that the company supports, and having personal relationships with leadership is a great differentiator (arguably the best, in my experience).This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For sure. And of course all this advice is only helpful if you have the mental energy to do it. So many people are suffering depression or other mental health issues after watching thier friends and family get laid off. Now is also a great time to make use of your company health services and talk to a counsellor or therapist. In many cases even two or three sessions can be a really healthy reset.
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Damn extraslow and his great advice.
I think you motivated me to take some additional courses.
I’m already involved in a work side project where I rub elbows with the GMs and VPs.
Time to step it up, regardless of economy. Standing out is the most important thing.
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."
-H.P. Lovecraft
I can't rep you anymore unfortunately, but thank you for this post.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I accept high-fives at the foodie meets as well.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I know a few guys who have made the expat mistake overseas (both in Asia and the sandbox.) they all say the same thing. There’s a reason they have to pay insane amounts of money, and STILL can’t put qualified guys in their airplanes.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The phrase “because China” doesn’t even begin to cover it...
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I was thinking of a 3 year contract perhaps - and then come back to NA ready to fly the majors. I know people who (white canadians) went to live in China (not as pilots) and they did just fine.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Is there a forum or discussion group that talks about the major problems expats face?
AvCanada if you’re willing to put up with the cesspool.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But yeah China sucks balls. I’d rather make less money here.
Problem is, if the airline gig is your goal, even if you go overseas and make a million bucks and come back here in 3-5 years, even IF you get on with a major here or in the states, you’re now ~1200 seniority numbers behind where you’d have been if you just stayed on. Once you do the expat thing you can’t really come back from it. I’ve seen a few guys go back to corporate, but you’re starting all over again if you head the airline route. Doesn’t matter if you’ve got 20,000 hours on the 777 you’re still going bottom of the list.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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So unions suck basicallyThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Ah - true - but heres the deal - there is an actual (starting to be) pilot shortage - even in North America - which will get worse in time.
More and more potential pilots realize that going 200,000$ in debt combined with 50,000$ a year in income, makes no sense. Fuck, 10 years ago some of the regional low time FOs were making 9,000$ a year.
Soon the unions will have to make concessions to let in the pilots with heavy experience, in at a certain level (not bottom). Otherwise no one is going to work for them.
Unions are awful for skilled professionals.
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A family friend of ours has been a pilot for a long time with Air Canada, doing transpacific flights for the last...10? As far as I understand, he's making quite good money...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It'd be a hard life anyways as a pilot. Plus I recall some statistic that it's just hard on your body with the large swing in changing altitudes, year after year.
Someone at Westjet told me that long-time flight attendents can make upwards of 70-80k+/yr....
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Unions are awesome for unskilled laborers.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Liuna out here in Toronto pays great. Labourer wage of around 35 an hour. Our swampers are something like 38 an hour. But then again, that cost of living here.
Depends where you are in Toronto, as I’m sure you know. Toronto proper is expensive as hell. If you’re out in Durham or Hamilton or Vaughn or something it’s quite a bit cheaper.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yeah but a bitch of a commute from Durham to Toronto proper.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Will fuck off, again.
Oh god it sure is. My gf does the reverse commute from our place and it’s not bad but the other way looks like hell.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote