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    I'm a firm believer that solar will be the dominant power generation source within my lifetime.
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    https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/nrg/sttstc...index-eng.html

    The "official" government report basically says thumbs up for Sask and PEI. Nova Scotia and Alberta because of its Rocky mountain cloud destroying sunny weather is doable with slight subsidies. Assuming break even and current solar cell pricing.

    No doubt this will become viable for the entirety of Canada soon enough.
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    No sooner had I posted the other post when google news pops up this article on my feed:

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...gate-1.5261539

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    Yup, solar panels have come a long way. In the 1970's just a little after the moon landing, they quoted specs of "earth" and not satellite solar panels at around $75 to $140 per watt (not adjusted for inflation even)

    I can imagine that at 25 cents per watt, is when people will start jumping onboard as a "viable alternative".
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    No sooner had I posted the other post when google news pops up this article on my feed:

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...gate-1.5261539
    Pretty impressive @ 1.5 million panels. Alberta has the natural advantage of cool climate, which improves longevity and output. They long term test rate lifespan of solar panels based on 25 Celsius, which pretty much means closer to halved lifespan in places like Arizona - But potentially doubled lifespan in Alberta.

    In the absolute hottest days of an Alberta summer, they actually might slightly offset the panels if peak demand is not there - just to keep the panels a few degrees cooler.
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    Technological changes in the equipment can change the pay back time, and not for the better. I'm being told by my in-laws that their system installed in the 90's required a bunch of upgrades and changes when the inverter and controller failed. Now they are tacking on another decade or so.
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    Of course you just know that when they finish, I'm going to visit for a tour and measure what angle they end up using
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    https://greengatepower.com/travers-solar-400-mw

    They even show a slight outline of the sections of land that will be used, slightly off Travers dam on Lake McGregor. I know the area quite well, it is a great spot for solar, as well as the small chance that climate changes the weather so much that we get crazy rain - electrical infrastructure can also be re-used for the trickle of water excess that goes through there.

    Found the one farmer in that entire area.

    https://www.google.ca/maps/@50.25193...7i13312!8i6656
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    The problem with nuclear is that it is ridiculously expensive to maintain. You literally have to have a team of experts around watching it literally every millisecond and millions of sensors. If something goes wrong like a coolant pipe L joint starting to fail, you need extremely specialized equipment procedures and an entire shutdown procedure to make sure its done right. Its usually a good idea, and might even be a requirement to have a military base beside it just in case someone tries to steal some uranium too.

    If a panel fails, literally an 18-year old technology student with a pair of $20 electrician gloves could replace it.

    Realistically Alberta is the best place for solar. The entirety of the east coast of the USA, hurricanes. West coast? Earthquakes. Coasts in general? Cloudy/foggy weather off the ocean, as well as saltwater moisture damage. Mexico? Hot weather will degrade panels faster. Deserts? Sand will very quickly erode the surfaces of solar panels.

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    This was the video I was talking about earlier.
    It explains the problems and limitations of Solar using California as a example.



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