I think the bigger concern is the growing population, disease, human waste & pollution of our oceans.
The Earth will be around long after humans kill themselves off.
I think the bigger concern is the growing population, disease, human waste & pollution of our oceans.
The Earth will be around long after humans kill themselves off.
Right, because apparently we ought not to be doing anything (per your last comment).This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you honestly feel the world will follow our virtuous lead? It's hard to lead by example when no one gives a shit about you...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Canada has two choices. The one commonly touted by the "Well, we can't do nothing" crowd basically means that we voluntarily lower our standards of living and resultant emissions, to lead the world by example. As correctly pointed out, it would not make a material difference in global emissions, but we can feel good that we're leading the way and providing an example for other countries to follow, if they so choose (they won't, but we can still pat ourselves on the back about it).
The other option is - and this would be my preference - for Canada to be as prosperous as possible. Continue to develop our natural resources in a responsible and sustainable way, just as we've done, so that Canadian resource companies can pay Canadian royalties and Canadian wages to Canadian employees that pay Canadian taxes. We can then use this prosperity to develop new technologies, and ultimately commercialize them to be deployed around the world. We could achieve this through some changes in tax policy, namely a re-jigged royalty tax structure and a reasonable carbon tax that is not revenue neutral and does not go into general revenues.
In my opinion, carbon tax revenue should focus on reducing carbon emissions from various angles. A carbon tax successfully implemented in this way would achieve two goals - firstly, it would serve to provide a gentle nudge to change consumer behaviour, such as buying a more efficient vehicle which will ultimately reduce emissions. Secondly, (and more importantly in my view), the revenue from this tax could be used to provide funding and grants for R&D into new technologies, transit and other infrastructure developments, low or zero interest loans for companies to commercialize green technologies and could maybe even go towards developing nuclear power generation.
I am not in favour of knee-capping our resource industries and lowering our standards of living, all while saddling future of Canadians with unsustainable debt, just so we can tell our selves some warm and fuzzy platitudes about making a difference.
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Do you feel we as a Country we will have an impact on the global environment if we switch to 100% renewable energy?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Best thing we could do is control population. How do we do that? Make immunizations illegal so the weakest of us die off and the strong spread their seed. Bam!!! Two problems solved with one play...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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You're both smarter and better than this response. That isn't even what he said.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Originally posted by SJW
Once again another useless post by JRSCOOLDUDE.
Originally posted by snowcat
Don't let the e-thugs and faggots get to you when they quote your posts and write stupid shit.^^ Fact CheckedOriginally posted by JRSC00LUDE
I say stupid shit all the time.
Isn't it?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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He doesn't agree with what they're (the government) doing and how is how I read it, I'm sure he'll clarify though.
Being able to see that what they're doing is nonsensical doesn't mean you should do nothing. Are you aware of another country who is hamstringing themselves so badly to prove a point, all well continuing to support other countries in their wanton ways of pollution?
Originally posted by SJW
Once again another useless post by JRSCOOLDUDE.
Originally posted by snowcat
Don't let the e-thugs and faggots get to you when they quote your posts and write stupid shit.^^ Fact CheckedOriginally posted by JRSC00LUDE
I say stupid shit all the time.
I'll address the other comments later. However, our country is hamstrung? Last I checked, unemployment ex-Alberta was low and the TSX was trading at an all-time high.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"Hamstrung".
Last time I checked major corporations are pulling out of CANADA, nobody wants to invest in our Country. All the wealth management companies I have conversations with have zero interest in Canadian markets.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yep, unfortunately.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It’d be different if we had tech companies lining up at our door. But we don’t.
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."
-H.P. Lovecraft
Maybe if we tried to attract them like we did/do in O&G? The cons just axed a few tech incentives/tax grants/etc...This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So why would tech companies be lining up at our door? It's not like we give a fuck about attracting them... lol.
You know what else can be used to attract Tech companies? Money.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Money that will be made from a booming energy industry in Canada, which has the net effect of reducing global emissions.
Now with all of this money, and the attraction of said tech companies we can further invest and continue to reduce emissions through alternative energy.
Please explain to me why we wouldn’t leverage an absolute golden goose in order to achieve the end goal of reduction in emissions?
No offence but your line of thinking is extremely illogical.
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How does one diversify without “tech” companies nowadays?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."
-H.P. Lovecraft
Are you more comfortable with foreign oil being shipped across the oceans then our own oil being shipped via pipelines?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think oil tankers are safer, more environmentally friendly?
I just trying to figure out why ES deliberately posted this knowing the chaos that would ensue? Just for shits and giggles?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Will fuck off, again.
Because environmental talk was clogging up his oil thread.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Im no expert, but the government shouldn't be picking winners and losers for subsidies. I'd much rather make Alberta attractive for investment across the board and see what develops organically.
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This comment relates to nothing I've said, in this threads or other. What's your point?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Do you think I'm advocating we shut down oil production in Canada? If so, read my post on page 1 of this thread.
Tons of ways.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
My line of thinking - and I'm not sure you even understand what that is - is not illogical. Thinking that we should roll out comparable incentives to other industries in order to draw them here kind of makes sense given that balancing our economy with non-boom/bust industries also makes sense.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think your argument is that with all the money we generate from resource extraction, we would use it to attract investment? Except that every government we've had in power, including the current one, has no interest in reinvesting that money back into anything. We had years of making a ton of money and what did we do with it? Where is it now?
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How come we didn't see more tech/other industries enter the space pre-NDP?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote