Climate change discussion.

[89coupe]

100 scientific papers: CO2 has minuscule effect on climate

https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/100-scie...ffect-climate/

[mazdavirgin]

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100 scientific papers: CO2 has minuscule effect on climate

https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/100-scie...ffect-climate/

You're really scrapping the bottom of the barrel there... I can't help but hope you don't actually read news shit like that and think it's in any way shape or form true. You're reading wingnut ZenOps level conspiracy drivel. Then again if you're a dinosaur denying young eather/flat eather evangelical christian then hell that website has the news for you.

[ZenOps]

Argon: 0.93% of atmosphere
Carbon dioxide: 0.04% of atmosphere (up from 0.025% two thousand years ago)

Ask any chemist which is the more effective greenhouse "brown" gas. Ask any chemist what will happen to the planet if you remove all carbon dioxide (basically extinction level event) They don't flood fill panes of glass with carbon dioxide to make them better at keeping in heat.

The vast majority don't want reality, they want man on the moon - even if the science does not fit.

That being said: I'm all for the death of combustion engine vehicles. Without doubt the man who has injected the most carbon into the atmosphere by a factor of 1 million would be Buzz Aldrin. Not only did you need the fuel, you had to use a hell of a lot of carbon to build the rocket - which was simply discarded after single use.

If you go by pure carbon usage, by far you could say that Buzz was the biggest dickwad of all.

[Misterman]

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You're really scrapping the bottom of the barrel there... I can't help but hope you don't actually read news shit like that and think it's in any way shape or form true. You're reading wingnut ZenOps level conspiracy drivel. Then again if you're a dinosaur denying young eather/flat eather evangelical christian then hell that website has the news for you.

And what science are you basing your opinion on? Whether you agree with the opinions of the author of this article, fact remains there is a lot of real scientific evidence that goes against CO2 being a pollutant in the sense the left has been attempting to portray it.

[ZenOps]

Might as well go full Chemist: 10% Carbon dioxide is lethal to humans. 500 parts per million Carbon monoxide is lethal to humans.

It takes a combustion engine car with a closed off exhaust literally a minute to reach deadly level concentrations. Arguably, if a combustion engine car was invented in the year 2020, it would never be legal anywhere in the world and people would literally have more lawsuits over every (toxic or immediately deadly) liquid put into it, or gas emitted from it.

That we still use a two ton insanely toxic human navigated delivery vehicle instead of 2 cents worth of electricity flying AI drone to deliver one pizza - Is pure insanity. That the USA still delivers pizza by car with human, is *exactly* why it is $190,000 debt per citizen.

Bezos save us!

[Tik-Tok]

But my pizza would get cold by the time it got to me.

[ZenOps]

They could wrap it in a space blanket, but then it would be soggy too. In California, delivering a cold beer will also be a feat. These are the hurdles that can be overcome, I have faith in AI drones.

Also: Since drones travel in straight lines and do not require "Sight" to navigate, it should eventually be faster delivery than congested traffic cities. Pizza delivered in 5 minutes or free. Pizza delivery guys in India probably can't deliver on smog days, this is the reality.

So, drone delivered pizza or no pizza at all. The choice is obvious, LA will probably get to 2 hours or its free if they continue at this pace (based on traffic increases in California) Which begs the question, if it takes two hours to deliver, how much pizza is actually going towards the drivers wages and gasoline?





When Greta says we are living in a hellscape of air pollution, Yeah - a lot of places actually are. I would also add that the USA is the model of inefficiency when it comes to highways destroying productivity. No wonder a slice of delivered avocado toast costs $20.

El Paso, drinking sewer water AND worst core traffic in the world. Seriously, something is going to explode there.

[A790]

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And what science are you basing your opinion on? Whether you agree with the opinions of the author of this article, fact remains there is a lot of real scientific evidence that goes against CO2 being a pollutant in the sense the left has been attempting to portray it.

I know you won't, but reading this might be a good start: https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/.

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[ExtraSlow]

Holy. Shit we need to shut down Canadas petroleum industry today to help out!

[JRSC00LUDE]

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Holy. Shit we need to shut down Canadas petroleum industry today to help out!

False.

It should be shut down yesterday. It's the only way.

[Buster]

If a traditionally frigid country like Australia is starting to get hot, we're right fucked.

[rage2]

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If a traditionally frigid country like Australia is starting to get hot, we're right fucked.

Especially in the middle of winter.

[lilmira]

crikey mate!

[JRSC00LUDE]

Don't even need to use fuel when throwin' another shrimp and some snags on the barbie! That's an enviro-win!

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Especially in the middle of winter.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to rage2 again

[89coupe]

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Quick update from Australia, which is "like a furnace" right now and breaking heat records once again, with historically high temperatures approaching 50° C in some parts of the country.
Records are expected to be broken even in coastal areas, as bushfires burn out of control across the entire continent. Does anyone here have friends or family in the affected areas?

We have friends who live there, this time of year is always hot (summer time), just an excuse to crack open a cold one.

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[89coupe]

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So you created this thread not only because you didn't want people cluttering up your precious oil thread but also so you could shit on anyone asking a serious question in this thread? I get it now, don't worry, I won't make that mistake again.



No point because then users like ExtraSlow will post a billion times a day instead of the usual million, offsetting any carbon savings.



Thank you Bradley, I know it's austral summer time. I also have an important word in there, "record" is a neat word that means a number is higher than the previous high number.

The highest maximum temperature was recorded as 50.7 °C (123.3 °F) at Oodnadatta on 2 January 1960, which is the highest official temperature recorded in Australia. The lowest minimum temperature was −8.0 °C (17.6 °F) at Yongala on 20 July 1976

[ExtraSlow]

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So you created this thread not only because you didn't want people cluttering up your precious oil thread but also so you could shit on anyone asking a serious question in this thread? I get it now, don't worry, I won't make that mistake again.

I'm shitting on you for asking a question that's irrelevant to the thread topic. I'm sure you believe that a heat wave in Australia is some kind of proof of climate change, so I'll let that slide, but it feels like you are trying to get some kind of heartbreaking personal story of tragedy to turn this into some kind of "if you deny climate change you are truly killing babies" sort of shouting match.

Maybe I'm reading too far between the lines. Maybe you are trying to have a serious discussion. Maybe I'm an asshole. maybe maybe maybe.