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    New documentary investigating the source of funds used to campaign against the oilsands.

    In a few theatres, but it seems to be sold out for Calgary showings.

    Available to watch on vimeo for $5

    https://vimeo.com/ondemand/overabarrel

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtsniffer View Post
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    New documentary investigating the source of funds used to campaign against the oilsands.

    In a few theatres, but it seems to be sold out for Calgary showings.

    Available to watch on vimeo for $5

    https://vimeo.com/ondemand/overabarrel
    Watch the lies for $5, or read the truth for free.

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/201...spiracy-theory
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
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    Watch the lies for $5, or read the truth for free.

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/201...spiracy-theory
    That's funny. Coles notes are basically "Hey if you ignore all the data that nullifies my argument, then my argument is great. Now let me distract you with these figures and graphs that aren't related" It's rather ironic actually that an author uses such conspiracy theory peddling tactics to tell the reader that there is no conspiracy happening. Pretty clever actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    That's funny. Coles notes are basically "Hey if you ignore all the data that nullifies my argument, then my argument is great. Now let me distract you with these figures and graphs that aren't related" It's rather ironic actually that an author uses such conspiracy theory peddling tactics to tell the reader that there is no conspiracy happening. Pretty clever actually.
    Anybody here speak imbecile that can translate?

    Let me simplify ONE point for you. The amount of foreign money used to support dirty energy is about a million times more than foreign money trying to save the environment and humanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
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    Anybody here speak impecile that can translate?

    Let me simplify ONE point for you. The amount of foreign money used to support dirty energy is about a million times more than foreign money trying to save the environment and humanity.
    Lol impecile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
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    Anybody here speak impecile that can translate?
    Even more irony. lol. I like it.

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    Let me simplify ONE point for you. The amount of foreign money used to support dirty energy is about a million times more than foreign money trying to save the environment and humanity.
    As it should be considering human caused climate change isn't a real thing.

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    Second point of clarification. It take a whack job liar to pretend that when the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation donates money to a charity or environmental advocate group, that they actually have an evil mastermind agenda to destroy Canadian dirty energy in favour of America's.

    On this point I disagree with the author. It is not a conspiracy theory. It is an outright lie by very bad people with a dirty agenda. The lowest of the low.
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    Going into this, I honestly though it was going to be pretty "ra-ra O&G". But really it was much more about highlighting the economic warfare that is going on from external forces into Canada. It seems reasonable to think that the O&G industry in Canada is not the only industry in their crosshairs. With external funding and essentially electroral psychological manipulation (ie: Cambridge Analytica) entities in the mix these days, it's pretty disheartening actually.

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    My wife and I really liked this documentary. I even have a friend who owns an electrical company who has stated many times that he would never even consider hiring someone from O&G because "they are just going to leave when things pick up" tell me that he really liked it and it opened his eyes to a lot of things.

    What Vivian Krause was able to uncover was phenomenal and also extremely disheartening. One thing that came up in the documentary that I never considered (but totally makes sense) is how the communities are impacted once the protesters leave. They accomplish their goals by stopping what ever industry they were protesting against but they leave without providing any of those communities with viable economic alternatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
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    Watch the lies for $5, or read the truth for free.

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/201...spiracy-theory
    I watched the doc today. I found it pretty interesting.

    The link you supply here is also interesting. It basically debunks a lot of what's in the doc and labels it a myth. By what Sandy Garossino w/ the national observer is saying, we should be flying high here in Alberta, an energy super power, facing little to no obstructions with new energy infrastructure. But yet, here we are, in Alberta, with a fundamental problem of getting transport capacity built for energy production. I also found it interesting how Sandy Garossino starts her research in 2009 instead of years prior when the Tar Sands Campaign launched (08) and what Krause found in the mid 00's.

    I don't know who Sandy Garossino is so I did some googling. Her twitter is staunchly against Alberta. Her name comes up associated with the National Observer, Vancouver Observer, Huffington Post, the Narwhal, thetyee... media that has been against Alberta for some time now.

    Whether it's manufactured or not, these problems have driven a wedge between Canadians. One side says there's foreign interference at work. The other side says it's a myth. Great, thanks for the contribution to the divide.
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    Isn't this free to watch on Youtube?

    Also, one thing they mentioned was that CorpEthics rewrote the summary of their Tar Sands Campaign which used to say that the campaign strategy was to land-lock the tar sands and block all proposed pipelines. If you go to their website now and read it, then use the url at https://archive.org/web/ you'll see that is in fact true.

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    What I have learn is the new economy is about preaching to the choir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FLY View Post
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    Isn't this free to watch on Youtube?

    Also, one thing they mentioned was that CorpEthics rewrote the summary of their Tar Sands Campaign which used to say that the campaign strategy was to land-lock the tar sands and block all proposed pipelines. If you go to their website now and read it, then use the url at https://archive.org/web/ you'll see that is in fact true.
    Yup. I saw that as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FLY View Post
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    Isn't this free to watch on Youtube?
    Until end of October.
    Can donate to cover the production costs.
    I tossed them a few buck. Might as well, they're sticking up for my industry.

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    I enjoyed it.

    It's of course somewhat biased but I think it presents a pretty good explanation of a lot of the issues with the "anti-oil" movement and rhetoric around it.

    Unfortunately, it seems only those already understanding of the problems will watch and understand this documentary. .The people on the other side that I most commonly debate these issues with can't seem to accept any of it as fact and rely on article like this to dispute and discredit her work: https://www.nationalobserver.com/201...spiracy-theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by 04Terminator View Post
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    Watch the lies for $5, or read the truth for free.

    https://www.nationalobserver.com/201...spiracy-theory
    Uh, you refute using a piece from the Tides funded National Observer? LOL

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