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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinL View Post
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    I think a lot of the issues have been ironed out since the early cars with panel gaps etc. The problems I have with the car are more design choices and feature implementation.

    I'm not sure about the new change in the SR+ battery composition that gives slightly better range at the expense of weight, cold weather performance and power. I'm glad I got my SR+ before they started pulling back on features and performance.
    But the heated steering wheel tho...


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    Quote Originally Posted by mo_money2supe View Post
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    But the heated steering wheel tho...
    Yeah, wish we could retrofit them.

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    True, there was a brief window after I got my car when you could get the SR+ with all the goodies including radar, passenger lumbar, AND heated steering wheel!

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    I thought you could just trade your Tesla in for MSRP?
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    I thought you could just trade your Tesla in for MSRP?
    I don't think that happens, but you can sell it privately for over MSRP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinL View Post
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    I don't think that happens, but you can sell it privately for over MSRP.
    Why would anyone do that? Just can't wait a couple of months for a new one? If I build a model 3 performance at the website is says December delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    Why would anyone do that? Just can't wait a couple of months for a new one? If I build a model 3 performance at the website is says December delivery.
    You're the second least likely member on this entire forum to research and purchase a Tesla.

    Prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    Why would anyone do that? Just can't wait a couple of months for a new one? If I build a model 3 performance at the website is says December delivery.
    The RWD with 19" wheels is June '22 and if you want 18" it's September '22. I think they found a new way to game the government grant system by upcharging $2000 for the 19's, but having the 18's technically available... you just have to wait a year if you want those.

    Take a look on autotrader for used Model 3s, we live in crazy times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    You're the second least likely member on this entire forum to research and purchase a Tesla.

    Prove me wrong.
    I don't need to prove anything ha ha ha. Not exactly sure why you would think that given I've never been a brand loyal person and have always moved from brand to brand. I am on my 2nd BMW in a row but that's the first time I've ever stuck with a brand on back to back vehicles.

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    The RWD with 19" wheels is June '22 and if you want 18" it's September '22. I think they found a new way to game the government grant system by upcharging $2000 for the 19's, but having the 18's technically available... you just have to wait a year if you want those.

    Take a look on autotrader for used Model 3s, we live in crazy times.
    So it's the standard range model 3's that are long delivery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    I don't need to prove anything ha ha ha. Not exactly sure why you would think that given I've never been a brand loyal person and have always moved from brand to brand. I am on my 2nd BMW in a row but that's the first time I've ever stuck with a brand on back to back vehicles.



    So it's the standard range model 3's that are long delivery.
    iIRC you are one of the staunch critics of refinement, fit & feel and it sounds like that isn't a Tesla strong suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo_money2supe View Post
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    I'll PM you closer to Black Friday to see if I will for sure pick up the MPP coilovers. Chances are it'll be a go as long as there's a reasonable sale on them. Here's a link to my T-Sportline springs FYI: https://tsportline.com/products/tesl...22372591992892

    The P3's rear brakes are rather large. Just have to be sure that the inner diameter of the wheel barrel will clear the brakes; there aren't many options though... I too have 18s wrapped with studded Hakka 8s, but I'm cutting it close (credit card thickness maybe). These are RAC R04 wheels in 18x8.5 et35 from UrbanX. Costs just under $1k for the set. The ones that Benyl has are guaranteed to fit no problem though.

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    No problem - I am in no rush - Did you notice any difference to ride quality?

    Also for sizing down (18") from 20" on Performance did you notice an increase in range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    iIRC you are one of the staunch critics of refinement, fit & feel and it sounds like that isn't a Tesla strong suit.
    It's important to me but I have owned Subaru, Mitsubishi, Ford, Chrysler vehicles and those aren't brands I would consider overly refined or high quality.

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    Heavy D would make a great handle for a Tesla owner
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurrdurr View Post
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    No problem - I am in no rush - Did you notice any difference to ride quality?

    Also for sizing down (18") from 20" on Performance did you notice an increase in range?
    The front springs are linear and slightly heavier spring rates than OEM. The rears are progressive with a significantly lower spring rate in the top half, and about OEM spring rates in the bottom half. So overall, I actually find the ride plusher than OEM. You still know you're on springs only on the heavy bumps but as a DD, it's by far the most comfortable spring-only set-up I've driven and ridden in, with handling to boot. You're welcome to take my car for a spin before committing of course. I do also have F/R Eibach sways so the car feels that much tighter than with just springs.

    My 20s are flow formed and 18s are cast, so both sets actually weigh about the same. If anything, the 18s have a higher outer centrifugal mass due to the additional rubber. Not to mention they're also studded. I use about 25 Wh/km more in winter but that's more likely due to HVAC use and parking outside in the cold at work more than it has to do with the wheel weights or tire compound. Those OEM 20s are heavy though...if you're wanting to stick with 20s, get flow formed or forged wheels and your efficiency will improve greatly.


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    Supply chain issues really hitting the hardware stores hard. I’m trying to self install a 14-50R plug in my garage and can’t find any 6/3 nmd-90 or 2p50A federal stabloc breaker. Home Depot/Lowe’s/Rona/Canadian all sold out. Managed to order a Hubble plug off of Amazon though. Good thing my delivery got pushed back until June so I got time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redblack View Post
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    Supply chain issues really hitting the hardware stores hard. I’m trying to self install a 14-50R plug in my garage and can’t find any 6/3 nmd-90 or 2p50A federal stabloc breaker. Home Depot/Lowe’s/Rona/Canadian all sold out. Managed to order a Hubble plug off of Amazon though. Good thing my delivery got pushed back until June so I got time.
    How much 6/3 do you need? I have about 15 ft loose right now and another 65 feet or so that I will "uninstall" when we move in January.

    I also have a spare one of these as I put in a HPWC and went to 60A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mo_money2supe View Post
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    The front springs are linear and slightly heavier spring rates than OEM. The rears are progressive with a significantly lower spring rate in the top half, and about OEM spring rates in the bottom half. So overall, I actually find the ride plusher than OEM. You still know you're on springs only on the heavy bumps but as a DD, it's by far the most comfortable spring-only set-up I've driven and ridden in, with handling to boot. You're welcome to take my car for a spin before committing of course. I do also have F/R Eibach sways so the car feels that much tighter than with just springs.

    My 20s are flow formed and 18s are cast, so both sets actually weigh about the same. If anything, the 18s have a higher outer centrifugal mass due to the additional rubber. Not to mention they're also studded. I use about 25 Wh/km more in winter but that's more likely due to HVAC use and parking outside in the cold at work more than it has to do with the wheel weights or tire compound. Those OEM 20s are heavy though...if you're wanting to stick with 20s, get flow formed or forged wheels and your efficiency will improve greatly.
    I may take you up on that - thank you.

    What are you guys averaging for KWH? My lifetime is about 170KWH with about 10,000kms. I noticed last week it was tough to keep under 200

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    Can you change the colour of your wheels in the system? Haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Can you change the colour of your wheels in the system? Haha
    Just to the stock colours. They don’t have “bronze”. It’s mainly to set the configuration so that the range estimate matches. 20” summers gets 450km max, 18” winters puts me at 499km max range on the “fuel gauge.” You’ll never hit that though, summer or winter.

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