Tesla vehicle discussion. No Elon or stock chat.

[benyl]

2021 cars have a heated steering wheel. The software hasn’t been released yet.

Sound system on the SR+ isn’t great. It’s better on the LR. Still not MB, BMW, etc quality.

There are more and more BEVs coming. Just wait a year or two.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Should have driven a performance over to the Trackhawk dealership.

[ExtraSlow]

I'm not kidding when I say you either love it, or don't like it at all. I think the middle ground is showing up over time, but that's been my experience with people I've talked to.

Honestly, for 70 year olds, I think you could skip BEV, PHEV, and stick with gasoline.

[90_Shelby]

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Should have driven a performance over to the Trackhawk dealership.

Trackhawk over Tesla if you want to use a roof mounted cargo box.

[benyl]

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I'm not kidding when I say you either love it, or don't like it at all. I think the middle ground is showing up over time, but that's been my experience with people I've talked to.

Honestly, for 70 year olds, I think you could skip BEV, PHEV, and stick with gasoline.

Can’t teach an old dog new tricks eh?

For 70 year olds, BEVs are the best thing ever. No maintenance. No getting COVID from gas pumps. Just drive from your house to the Kirby center to get free Cobbs left over bread and back to your house and plug in.

There are plenty of decent BEVs out there that aren’t Tesla, but none have AWD under $70K. I have a deposit on an EQC and was hoping I would be in it already, but Mercedes decided that carbon credits in Europe were more important.

At this point though, for travel, you can’t really compete with the Supercharger network.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I'm not kidding when I say you either love it, or don't like it at all. I think the middle ground is showing up over time, but that's been my experience with people I've talked to.

Honestly, for 70 year olds, I think you could skip BEV, PHEV, and stick with gasoline.

Go drive a Performance. Pussy.

[ExtraSlow]

Bev and PHEV are awesome. Not disputing.

[The_Rural_Juror]

I need a larger garage for a Cybertruck and Bangbus EV in the upcoming years.

[killramos]

Owning 2 or 3 ev’s would certainly make them more convenient

[JustinL]

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Update ( Hope I don't piss anyone off here!)

I think your assessment is quite fair especially coming from a Cayenne, which has one of the best interiors in the business! The attraction for me was that I was sick of fixing stuff on the S4. The DSG fluid leak I was dealing with took a month for me to find and I got pretty tired of crawling around under it cleaning oil, changing gaskets etc. Once I had decided on a BEV, the selection of possibilities goes way down. Looking at prices of used Teslas is what drove me down the rabbit hole and then with the Federal incentive you can pretty much try out the car for a year without taking a bad hit.

Why not put the Cayenne e-hybrid on the list for your parents? That's on my list of replacing the touareg when the time comes.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Owning 2 or 3 ev’s would certainly make them more convenient

Benyl parks one at work to charge while he drives the other one home. C'est normale.

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Update ( Hope I don't piss anyone off here!)

It's all good, mate!

[RX_EVOLV]

Their budget is not thattt high (for a Cayenne e-hybrid). Their budget is ~$70k, which is why we looked at the XC60 and Y.

My parents have split opinion on what they want though. My dad believes (rightfully so) EV is the future and wants to try one before he dies (not really for gas $ saving reasons). My mom thinks they are old now and need to go for comfort and safety. That's why she loved the XC60 (massage seats, nappa leather, etc etc.. ) and thought the ride on the Y was too rough.

The EV experience did open their eyes a little, so now they are willing to spend a little more (~$85-90K) and look at the PHEV versions of Volvo/BMW.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Their budget is not thattt high (for a Cayenne e-hybrid). Their budget is ~$70k, which is why we looked at the XC60 and Y.

My parents have split opinion on what they want thought. My dad believes (rightfully so) EV is the future and wants to try one before he dies (not really for gas $ saving reasons). My mom thinks they are old now and needs to go for comfort and safety. That's why she loved the XC60 (massage seats, nappa leather, etc etc.. ) and thought the ride on the Y was too rough.

The EV experience did open their eyes a little, so now they are willing to spend a little more (~$85-90K) and look at the PHEV versions of Volvo/BMW.

XC60 wins for sure on comfort. Tesla wins on safety by far. It's extremely difficult to roll over and you don't have an engine to crush your legs. AWD is better on the Tesla.

[rage2]

I can safely say that the AWD system in a Tesla isn’t any better than the AWD system in my Mercedes. When we were both traction limited in wet conditions, it was a dead heat. Once we got traction he pulled an immediate 1 car length on me because Tesla low end is just ridiculous, then we were dead even again to 200.

I genuinely thought the Tesla was going to kill me right off the line in cold damp conditions. In theory it should but it doesn’t.

[mo_money2supe]

While many consider a PHEV as a middle ground, IMO, it gets the worst of both worlds. Still have to pump gas and gas savings is minimal at best, still need to maintain the ICE, you lose out on the instant get-up and go torque and no-shift trannies (unless you're into the Taycan territory), you're still emitting exhaust, costs significantly more than their ICE counterparts, etc. Go all-in with a BEV or stay with an ICE. I'd personally choose the XC60 the most of the listed options.

I do agree, Model 3/Ys are great for people jumping in from a Honda/Toyota/Hyundai/Kia/etc. But if you're jumping in from any German brand, you're giving up on a lot on the luxuries. I had a hard time giving up my S4 but the power delivery and low (or lack thereof) maintenance ultimate won out. For long distance travelling at the current moment, Tesla wins hands down for their Supercharging network. Electrify America/Canada is a close second with VW/Audi/Porsche, but their pricing model is completely out to lunch. Only the likes of 89coupe can justify those costs!

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Electrify America/Canada is a close second with VW/Audi/Porsche, but their pricing model is completely out to lunch. Only the likes of 89coupe can justify those costs!

No he can't. That's why he bought a BMW. He's po'.

[dj_rice]

New Tesla dealership coming to Edmonton probably next year. Elon purchased the Ericksen Infiniti building. Lots of staff will be out of jobs as Infiniti is consolidating to just 1 dealership.

https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tes...onton-alberta/

[benyl]

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New Tesla dealership coming to Edmonton probably next year. Elon purchased the Ericksen Infiniti building.

Finally, people from YEG will stop with the wine about how they have to come to Calgary all the time. You’d think they would look for any excuse to leave YEG.

[The_Rural_Juror]

1 Year free unlimited supercharging for all Model 3 and Y deliveries between Dec 12 and 31.

[ExtraSlow]

Gotta goose those year end numbers.