Tesla vehicle discussion. No Elon or stock chat.

[benyl]

Infrastructure is being built everyday. Petro Canada stations are getting L2 chargers in many locations. I can charge at work, so I'm not worried. We will keep one ICE car for travel to places without adequate infrastructure.

[flipstah]

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Here's a quick summary of the "three" Model 3's that qualifies for the federal incentive:
$44,999+GST | "Under the table/order in store" | SR (not +) | software limited to 150km range
~$50,000+GST | SR (again, not +) | 385km range | no premium interior (no upgraded stereo, no LTE data, no rear heated seats, etc)
$54,999+GST | SR+ | 385km range | premium interior (see above)




Let me know if you want a drive in mine. I'm open to letting anyone driving the car to show it's performance abilities. Forget the whole Greta sustainability hipster idea with EVs; it's the surprising performance out of these cars that gets me out of bed every morning!

I totally remember you driving me to my place in your B16 Si, going down Deerfoot, showing me what VTEC sounds like. Can't believe that was 13 years ago!



Pre-Jan 2017 (or was it Nov 2016?) Model S and Model X's had unlimited free supercharging that was transferable to future owners. Tesla allowed a very limited group of Model 3 Performances, as well as a small selection of post-Jun'ish 2019 *new* Model S/X's, to also get free unlimited supercharging (for first-owner only). The Model 3 Performance owners were then given a one-time refund of $5k USD ($6,6k CAD) if they want to give up their free supercharging, but I held on to my offering. We tend to do a lot of roadtrips so I figured I'd keep it.

Battery tech has already improved between the Model S/X's vs the Model 3s and upcoming Model Ys. I can link you to very techy articles about batteries but the future is already here!

If you can, please do. Would love to read more about it!

My main concern is the lifespan of the battery and the replacement costs of it. I'd assume it's the same cost as an engine replacement? The Petro Canada announcement made my other travel worry not a worry.

[pheoxs]

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If you can, please do. Would love to read more about it!

My main concern is the lifespan of the battery and the replacement costs of it. I'd assume it's the same cost as an engine replacement? The Petro Canada announcement made my other travel worry not a worry.

The battery comes with a 8 year, 160k warranty that says it’ll have at least 70% retention of capacity so that shouldn’t really be a worry

[mo_money2supe]

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If you can, please do. Would love to read more about it!

My main concern is the lifespan of the battery and the replacement costs of it. I'd assume it's the same cost as an engine replacement? The Petro Canada announcement made my other travel worry not a worry.

Watch the video from the OP in this thread and read the entire thread (warning: grab a strong cup of joe to keep you awake!). Most of your questions/concerns will be answered in this one thread alone.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...lained.153074/

But to answer directly your comment about replacement costs, back in 2012 when the S first came out, rumour was that battery replacements would be in the magnitude of $40k USD or more! Six years later when the Model 3 came out, the S's actual battery replacements were more like $20k USD. Keep in mind that by this time, the S's were still under the 8 yr warranty period. Rumour moving forward is, by the time the 2018 Model 3 battery's 8 yr warranty period is over, the batteries will be closer to $5k USD. Time will tell but I can accept those numbers. Besides, just 'cause a battery has degradation in that time period does not make it non-useable. One can always repurpose the EV's batteries for home power storage (eg. storing electrons from a solar panel for example) because the house's power storage would never require the full 100% capacity at any given point since it will always be "charging" via solar anyway. That said, I have no intention of getting solar anytime soon so that home storage benefit may not actually be a benefit to me (at least not at this current point in time).

[Super_Geo]

One thing to keep in mind is that battery costs are falling rapidly year over year.
In 5-7 years if you need to replace your battery pack, you can throw something with more capacity and cheaper than it costs today.
I think that's what makes Tesla's warranty on them pretty genius, actually.

Also, Tesla's recent battery acquisitions are rolling out a 1million mile battery design.

[rage2]

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One thing to keep in mind is that battery costs are falling rapidly year over year.
In 5-7 years if you need to replace your battery pack, you can throw something with more capacity and cheaper than it costs today.
I think that's what makes Tesla's warranty on them pretty genius, actually.

Go ask a Roadster owner if that's true. Or if Tesla will even make it for them.

Regardless it's a moot point, the battery degradation is pretty minimal compared to the life of an ICE car anyways. The only concern with battery is progress, and depreciation because of it. You're buying leading edge shit right now.

[dj_rice]

https://globalnews.ca/news/6052028/e...sla-vandalism/

Dumbass turned himself in. Austin Grabas 20.
The 20-year-old said he had been cut off Friday night by a black sedan and, when he saw Leung’s black vehicle Saturday, he thought it was the same vehicle.

I don't believe his BS story. If there was no cameras recording him, he wouldn't have turned himself in. Not to mention the owner of the vehicle works for Global News so that helped getting the word out.

[benyl]

Picked up today. Only got to drive it 3kms before dropping it off at Shadow Tinting for Saran Wrap.



Kids like the car more than me.

Found some paint defects.

[benyl]

Getting them to fix it.

[shakalaka]

^Congrats! Looks great.

[KPHMPH]

Shawdow? Boooo, should have went to Ultimate Auto Protection!

[never]

It’d be better with grey wheels!

[ExtraSlow]

Looks fun @benyl . Enjoy the shit out of it.

[heavyD]

White interior with kids. You are a brave man.

[benyl]

Daughter spilt hot chocolate even before we pulled out. Hahahaha

[shakalaka]

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Daughter spilt hot chocolate even before we pulled out. Hahahaha

My kid would get disowned right there. lol.

[dj_rice]

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Daughter spilt hot chocolate even before we pulled out. Hahahaha

LOL take it to Detailed Solutions, they can Ceramic coat your interior

[01RedDX]

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[The_Rural_Juror]

Congrats Benyl! Looks great! What were they fixing? The white interior is apparently quite stain resistant. Shadow Tint did a great job with mine! They're effin' great!

Thanks for the heads up, 01RedDX.

I looked at Enmax for solar a few months ago. Even with unobstructed south facing panels, the efficiencies were poor and payback period was about 13 years (not counting maintenance and degradation).

[benyl]

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Enmax covering up to 75% of home EV charger installation.

https://www.enmax.com/ev?utm_content...ource=facebook

Limited time program, home owners only.

Yeah, signed up for it.

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LOL take it to Detailed Solutions, they can Ceramic coat your interior

It’s vegan leather.

Would Greta approve?