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[The_Rural_Juror]

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Wat

Your join date sir.

[The_Rural_Juror]

FSD price raised again.

[benyl]

Maybe only in the US.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Maybe only in the US.

You da MVP.

[benyl]

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You da MVP.

Be sure to use my referral link in my sig when you order your new car.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Be sure to use my referral link in my sig when you order your new car.

I can't afford anything until @Buster makes me his Rudy.

More FSD videos out. This one is interesting because the car crosses lanes to give a bicyclist room at 3:30. I would be upset if Tesla spent more than $20 working on that "feature".

[benyl]

2021 Model confirmed to get double pane driver and passenger windows.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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2021 Model confirmed to get double pane driver and passenger windows.

Why?!? These things must be virtually silent inside already. Aren't they?

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Why?!? These things must be virtually silent inside already. Aren't they?

Not really, you hear a ton of road noise with no engine drowning it out haha.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Not really, you hear a ton of road noise with no engine drowning it out haha.

Oh! Interesting.
My friend just bought a Model-3 Performance (because his i8 is an epic lemon, permanently in the shop) and so far he's thoroughly enjoying it.
/CoolStoryBro

He told me it rapes a Taycan Turbo in virtually every way, which also surprised me. What do these things have for tires that can lay down the nuclear traction needed for the acceleration?

[benyl]

PS4S come standard.

[The_Rural_Juror]

They've been switching to Pirellis. Ma got P Zeros.

[ganesh]

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Oh! Interesting.
My friend just bought a Model-3 Performance (because his i8 is an epic lemon, permanently in the shop) and so far he's thoroughly enjoying it.
/CoolStoryBro

He told me it rapes a Taycan Turbo in virtually every way, which also surprised me. What do these things have for tires that can lay down the nuclear traction needed for the acceleration?

ROFL. All the reviews must be wrong.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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ROFL. All the reviews must be wrong.

ROFL. Which reviews are comparing a $90k car with a $180k+ car?
I do love the Taycan's interior and fake vroom vroom noises.

[ganesh]

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ROFL. Which reviews are comparing a $90k car with a $180k+ car?
I do love the Taycan's interior and fake vroom vroom noises.

I am not disputing the Price point difference. However to claim that Model 3 performance is way better than a Taycan Turbo is little hard to believe.
https://www.xautoworld.com/tesla/mod...-taycan-turbo/

[90_Shelby]

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Oh! Interesting.
My friend just bought a Model-3 Performance (because his i8 is an epic lemon, permanently in the shop) and so far he's thoroughly enjoying it.
/CoolStoryBro

He told me it rapes a Taycan Turbo in virtually every way, which also surprised me. What do these things have for tires that can lay down the nuclear traction needed for the acceleration?

Not an exact comparison of what your friend claims but the Model S Performance definitely doesn't "rape" the Turbo S. What I find most interesting about this data is that after 2 hits with the Tesla the performance falls flat on its face. Crazy!

By the third 1/4 mile run the Tesla runs high 13's in the 1/4 from a 10.7@125 and 0-60 from 2.5 seconds to almost 5 seconds? Woof! Drain the battery 1/4? of the way and all performance is gone?

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s-performance/

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Not an exact comparison of what your friend claims but the Model S Performance definitely doesn't "rape" the Turbo S. What I find most interesting about this data is that after 2 hits with the Tesla the performance falls flat on its face. Crazy!

By the third 1/4 mile run the Tesla runs high 13's in the 1/4 from a 10.7@125 and 0-60 from 2.5 seconds to almost 5 seconds? Woof! Drain the battery 1/4? of the way and all performance is gone?

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...s-performance/

The degradation I had definitely heard about and it's amazing that Porsche has such repeatability.
I think he said something about a faster Nurburgring time and a 2.9s zero-60. So, stupid car magazine numbers, but whatever. I'm not up on any of those stats. I was surprised he said that was better but apparently there has been a recent software update that was a middle finger to Porsche.

[benyl]

Are you sure he has the model 3 and not the model S? Seems odd to compare a model 3 to the Taycan Turbo.

Yeah, Tesla's are fast given the right conditions. They aren't epic at lower states of charge. During Covid, I have only been charging my cars to 60%. They basically bounce between 40-60% which is the happy place for longevity. I have yet to lose to anyone at a light even at that low state of charge. It is a noticeable drop in power though.

I don't know if the issue is battery chemistry, Voltage (Taycan runs higher voltage) or if they engineered power delivery like that to preserve the battery. It's definitely compromise. I think the Taycans compromise on range.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Yes, Model-3 but some trim of it called "Performance".

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I am not disputing the Price point difference. However to claim that Model 3 performance is way better than a Taycan Turbo is little hard to believe.
https://www.xautoworld.com/tesla/mod...-taycan-turbo/

I dunno man. I'd expect that your bud drove the Taycan base 4S. Maybe it's because the 3 is smaller and feels like a go-kart more than the larger vehicle.

What an odd comparison from xautoworld. The Taycan also has a much larger battery pack. I'm not sure what they are referring to in the Model 3 launch control. There is none.
The comparable for the Taycan is the Model S, which is still cheaper and faster than the Porsche counterpart. Porsche probably feels more premium though.