Tesla vehicle discussion. No Elon or stock chat.

[BavarianBeast]

It’s an albertan car forum after all. Death to EV!

[Buster]

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So needlessly mean! It's not a vehicle I care for or would consider, but it's not like it's a Le Car or a Pontiac Aztec or Juke. LoL!!

Aztecs were ahead of their time

[JustinL]

I think the shape of that front bumper looks pretty good and definitely better than the stock version. It does seem like more of a pain in the ass than it's worth to switch it up though. Looked cool on the Pike's Peak car.

[riander5]

I feel like Tesla is the master of camera angles like fat girls on social media. Their cars look great in pressers and shit in person

[hurrdurr]

Does anyone want to buy a Spigen Screen Protector? Fits Model 3 and Y. I accidentally bought two and it's non refundable ����.♂️

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$40

Thanks!

[redblack]

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I’m seriously looking into purchasing an EV in the next few weeks, scheduled a test drive for middle of September (earliest appointment lol). Still debating on the Model 3 SR+ for the federal incentive or stepping it up to the model3 Lr or the Y LR for an extra 15-20K.

Any of you RWD Tesla owners have any regrets driving them for our climate?

[ExtraSlow]

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I’m seriously looking into purchasing an EV in the next few weeks, scheduled a test drive for middle of September (earliest appointment lol). Still debating on the Model 3 SR+ for the federal incentive or stepping it up to the model3 Lr or the Y LR for an extra 15-20K.

Any of you RWD Tesla owners have any regrets driving them for our climate?

Are you considering other brands. There are some compelling options that are not Tesla. Although if you love Tesla, you should just buy Tesla.

[jacky4566]

RWD is no problem with winter tires but you might want that extra range if you go to banff / lake louise often enough.

[JustinL]

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I’m seriously looking into purchasing an EV in the next few weeks, scheduled a test drive for middle of September (earliest appointment lol). Still debating on the Model 3 SR+ for the federal incentive or stepping it up to the model3 Lr or the Y LR for an extra 15-20K.

Any of you RWD Tesla owners have any regrets driving them for our climate?

The biggest problem you are going to have is finding a model 3 SR+ in the next few weeks as they're sold out until January. As far as EVs in the federal incentive range, the Tesla is the only one to get IMHO. It holds value better than all the others, is rear drive, has better tech; a no brainer. Things I've noticed in our climate is that they suffer from some wind chill as the car tries to heat the battery that's being cooled by the airflow under the car. It's no problem in the city, but I see the battery gets cold on the highway on the coldest days. If you never leave the city with the car, it's perfect, but then it can't be your only car. Driving in the slippery is no trickier than any other RWD car. It's got rear weight bias and very fine control over the wheel slip... my problem with it is that there is no sport mode and the car never lets you get it sideways, even if you need it to. There are supposed to be some "cold weather updates" since last season, so hopefully that helps a bit. The glass roof also leaks a ton of heat, so I put in an insulating sunshade for this winter too.

[mo_money2supe]

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I’m seriously looking into purchasing an EV in the next few weeks, scheduled a test drive for middle of September (earliest appointment lol). Still debating on the Model 3 SR+ for the federal incentive or stepping it up to the model3 Lr or the Y LR for an extra 15-20K.

Any of you RWD Tesla owners have any regrets driving them for our climate?

I'd say test drive both the SR+ and the LR back-to-back if possible. Power difference is noticeable. Budget can obviously be the deal breaker, but don't forget to account for the savings in fuel vs electricity into your budget. I personally saved over $250/mth from a 94-octane weekly fill-up (that was when 94 was still only $1.20/L) vs the approx. $30/mth added cost of electricity. The monthly difference allowed me to put an extra $20-25k into the price of the car itself. Not to mention the little to no maintenance costs. The LR also has more power adding options (either directly through Tesla or through 3rd parties), so something to keep in mind if power upgrades are desired in the future. Also highly consider your family needs. My family of 4 (two kids under 10y/o) fit very snuggly into my Model 3, though still doable when packing lightly. Any larger than that or needing more hauling room, just skip the 3 and go straight for the Y.

[Xtrema]

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I'd say test drive both the SR+ and the LR back-to-back if possible. Power difference is noticeable. Budget can obviously be the deal breaker, but don't forget to account for the savings in fuel vs electricity into your budget. I personally saved over $250/mth from a 94-octane weekly fill-up (that was when 94 was still only $1.20/L) vs the approx. $30/mth added cost of electricity. The monthly difference allowed me to put an extra $20-25k into the price of the car itself. Not to mention the little to no maintenance costs. The LR also has more power adding options (either directly through Tesla or through 3rd parties), so something to keep in mind if power upgrades are desired in the future. Also highly consider your family needs. My family of 4 (two kids under 10y/o) fit very snuggly into my Model 3, though still doable when packing lightly. Any larger than that or needing more hauling room, just skip the 3 and go straight for the Y.

Keep in mind that electricity will work towards parity with gasoline eventually.

Heck, if you didn't lock down your rate, float is 12c per kwh last couple of months. About 2x normal float rate. You still save but a lot less then it used to be. But if gasoline goes to $3/L like electricity just did, everyone would have screaming bloody murder.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...mand-1.6142763

I don't think AESO is prepared for this. Especially the AESO under current government. So if there is no investment in new supply, old supply is being taken away (coal) and demand goes up, there is only 1 way where price would go.

[JustinL]

Pairing an EV with a solar system is also a good hedge against rising electricity cost. Get on that Green Grant and get $10K off a SR+ solar system combo.

[ExtraSlow]

Combining two items with payouts longer than their lifespans isn't exactly what I'd call a hedge. But I know what you mean.

[killramos]

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Combining two items with payouts longer than their lifespans isn't exactly what I'd call a hedge. But I know what you mean.

[JustinL]

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Combining two items with payouts longer than their lifespans isn't exactly what I'd call a hedge. But I know what you mean.

I guess it depends on how much you expect electricity costs to increase.

Fair enough about my wording, yes an EV is not a hedge against electricity costs.

[ExtraSlow]

I'm mostly just busting balls, don't mind me. I'm supposed to stay out of this thread, as requested by several members and promised by myself.

[mo_money2supe]

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Keep in mind that electricity will work towards parity with gasoline eventually.

Heck, if you didn't lock down your rate, float is 12c per kwh last couple of months. About 2x normal float rate. You still save but a lot less then it used to be. But if gasoline goes to $3/L like electricity just did, everyone would have screaming bloody murder.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...mand-1.6142763

I don't think AESO is prepared for this. Especially the AESO under current government. So if there is no investment in new supply, old supply is being taken away (coal) and demand goes up, there is only 1 way where price would go.

You have to remember that just 'cause electricity increases, gasoline will also increase proportionately too. Hitting parity is very unlikely to happen, and here's some math to prove it. Let's say for argument's sake, electricity increases by 2x for the long term at $0.12/kwh. Based on my personal usage (admittedly, I only drive about 16-18k kms/yr so literally, YMMV), my monthly electrical costs will increase a whopping extra $30/mth. How much is 94-octane nowadays - about $1.50/L? From what I used to pay for 94-octane at $1.20/L on a 60L tank, that additional $0.30/L is now already an $18 increase - per fill up! That's an extra $72/mth increase! Even if gas doesn't see a 2x increase causing everyone to scream bloody murder, just a minimal $/L increase grows exponentially. With the increasing carbon taxes, like it or not, it's a guarantee gas prices will keep growing for the long term. Again, YMMV but even if electricity were to increase 3x (say $0.18/kwh) for the long term (and if this does happen, there will be time-of-day electrical rates such that it'll be significantly cheaper if used between say midnight-6am, similar to places like California), whatever few more cents/L gas increases will still be far costlier than that of a small electricity increase.

At the end of the day, I don't spout that EVs are gonna save the planet. It won't. At least not with the North American, let alone Canadian, populations. All I'm saying is cost-wise, it's significantly cheaper to operate than a comparable ICE-vehicle with performance that does cry bloody murder. Don't buy a Tesla either; they're nothing more than an overpriced gadget on wheels. It's essentially an iPhone 1 when smartphones were still at their infancy some 20 years ago. Once a better "Android" EV comes out that's comparable or better than Tesla, I'll probably be the first to jump off the Tesla bandwagon. But in the meantime, it's the best bang for your buck out there.

[hurrdurr]

I would think an SR+ would depreciate substantially more than the LR. Especially with other EV's coming out with higher battery capacity x features.

Pair that with a large range and power variance and it's a better play to go with the LR.

50% range loss in the freezing cold paired with an SR+ would give me way too much anxiety.

I have a Model 3 Performance and the range is already significantly less than advertised while driving normally in moderate conditions (23C AC on low) (~400KMS HWY @ 100%) (~400KM CITY @ 90%)

I've put on 5000km in 2 months - incredibly fun and effortless to drive. Probably my favourite vehicle I've owned/driven.

[JustinL]

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I would think an SR+ would depreciate substantially more than the LR.

Take a gander at SR+ prices on autotrader. Granted we are in bananalands for used car prices everywhere, but the Tesla prices are wacko. There are 3 2021's (like mine) for sale within 1000km and the cheapest is $63,888.

[redblack]

Thanks for the responses so far, I guess I’ll just have to decide after I test drive them both. I was able to schedule them back to back in September. Now I have to figure out how to run some cables into my garage for a 240v charger.