Tesla vehicle discussion. No Elon or stock chat.

[supe]

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Gimme a TLDW haha. I just want to know what they’re doing different than CATL and GM/LG who are the leaders right now in terms of said goals. Everyone is going to have different approaches, I’m curious how the end game is different.

My take, vertical integration. Tesla will design batteries that exactly fit the requirement while lowering prices. Iron based batteries for lower range requirements, and nickel based for more performance/range. At the end of the day two companies working together will cost more to the consumer than one company executing efficiently and effectively. Tesla is doing just that and batteries is just one example of many. Software/autopilot, charging infrastructure and service are all other examples.

[The_Rural_Juror]

They can extract lithium using table salt man!
/stoner

[Xtrema]

How does Tesla windshield hold up in our winters?

How long of a wait for replacement if cracked? Will any shop do it or have to go back to Tesla?

[benyl]

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How does Tesla windshield hold up in our winters?

How long of a wait for replacement if cracked? Will any shop do it or have to go back to Tesla?

They are no better or worse than MB, Toyota or Ford. You don’t have to go to Tesla. They will send you to Glassmasters. I think only OEM glass is available.

it used to be that you had to visit Tesla to calibrate the cameras, but they’ve added a button in the software for self-serve.

[Xtrema]

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They are no better or worse than MB, Toyota or Ford. You don’t have to go to Tesla. They will send you to Glassmasters. I think only OEM glass is available.

it used to be that you had to visit Tesla to calibrate the cameras, but they’ve added a button in the software for self-serve.

Good to know. BIL just got a Model 3 and he goes thru windshield every year or so. But probably last longer with WFH these days.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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How does Tesla windshield hold up in our winters?

How long of a wait for replacement if cracked? Will any shop do it or have to go back to Tesla?

$2k for the Y. Probably slightly less for the 3 and more for the X. About 2 week wait depending on how busy their shop is.
Can city potholes cause windshield cracks?

[The_Rural_Juror]

This guy's E-tron is really an etron. Quite a surprise.

[Xtrema]

At least it won't let you stranded randomly like Polestar 2.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/p...s-report-says/

[Xtrema]

Also @The_Rural_Juror is doing such a fine job, Tesla just removed the whole PR department.

https://electrek.co/2020/10/06/tesla...pr-department/

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Also @The_Rural_Juror is doing such a fine job, Tesla just removed the whole PR department.

https://electrek.co/2020/10/06/tesla...pr-department/

I sold a Tesla to my uber driver. I must now hang out with Kayleigh McEnany.

[rage2]

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At least it won't let you stranded randomly like Polestar 2.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/p...s-report-says/

That’s probably the worst thing you can boast about comparing to a Tesla haha.

[The_Rural_Juror]

[Xtrema]

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He got the order wrong, it should be $42069.

[rc2002]

Those that bought Model S before the price drop(s) probably aren’t very excited about this news.

The Model S is getting to be overdue for a model change/update so I’m not sure that Tesla has much choice if they want people to buy these.

[ExtraSlow]

I thought the whole business model was based on NOT doing regular hardware upgrades?

[benyl]

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I thought the whole business model was based on NOT doing regular hardware upgrades?

Most of the upgrades have been software. But the Tesla updates hardware all the time. They simply don’t wait for model years and just upgrade when the parts are available.

There is a pretty big difference between the 2012 Model S and the 2021. Touch points are all the same, but the hardware that runs the car has been constantly updated.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Most of the upgrades have been software. But the Tesla updates hardware all the time. They simply don’t wait for model years and just upgrade when the parts are available.

There is a pretty big difference between the 2012 Model S and the 2021. Touch points are all the same, but the hardware that runs the car has been constantly updated.

You sound like a fanboi. You probably bought some stonks too.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I thought the whole business model was based on NOT doing regular hardware upgrades?

Hardware upgrades happen all the time. They are really stealthy. For instance, the Model Y trunk has already been slightly upgraded in the first month.
A recent software update allows the owner to put a PIN on their glove box. A future update will place a USB slot in the glove compartment for people who wants to put a storage for the camera recordings.
After that, they have plans for turning the glove compartment into a microwave oven.

[Xtrema]

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Those that bought Model S before the price drop(s) probably aren’t very excited about this news.

The Model S is getting to be overdue for a model change/update so I’m not sure that Tesla has much choice if they want people to buy these.

The whole point of price drop is to keep people away from Lucid Air.

Plus they put wireless charging in Model 3 like sometime last year and the flaps of the center stack the covers the phone compartment also feel way better than the original 3.

You will always have an inferior version of Tesla, doesn't matter when you bought it. Kinda like buying a TV. They don't stick to 3/3 MMC/FMC of traditional car makers.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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The whole point of price drop is to keep people away from Lucid Air.

Plus they put wireless charging in Model 3 like sometime last year and the flaps of the center stack the covers the phone compartment also feel way better than the original 3.

You will always have an inferior version of Tesla, doesn't matter when you bought it. Kinda like buying a TV. They don't stick to 3/3 MMC/FMC of traditional car makers.

It's important to note that they're undercutting Lucid pricing which includes the $7,500 (iirc) federal credit that Tesla doesn't have access to. The Lucid model is also RWD vs the $69,420 AWD version.
They're doing it because they can. Model S is a small percentage of their sales.