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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    thought experiment:

    let's pretend for a moment that there is a call centre dedicated to getting people to turn out to vote. It calls random numbers, and it's your job as the call centre volunteer to convince the people on the other end of the phone to vote, if they were otherwise not intending to do so. In 30 minutes, you can convince 10 people to go to the polling station instead of staying home.

    Is that 30 minutes better spent at the polling station voting yourself, or at the call centre multiplying your value?
    So basically you want to be a hypocrite? Convincing others to vote while you don't?

    And your example doesn't make sense. There isn't a limited window to vote, there are multiple advanced days as well as the election day AND your employer is legally required to ensure you have 3 consecutive hours off to go vote.

    So you voting AND convincing others to vote is still better than you not voting and convincing others to vote.
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    I just wish I could vote Pierre Poilievre to leader of Conservatives.
    His questioning of Morneau is relentless and sadly comical at times.




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    As a proud Albertan, our message to Ottawa needs to be clear. If you don’t vote in this election, you lack integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BavarianBeast View Post
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    As a proud Albertan, our message to Ottawa needs to be clear. If you don’t vote in this election, you lack integrity.
    LOL oh fuck off. Go wave your Alberta pride flag elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    You are making two contradictory and mutually exclusive statements.

    Which is it.
    No I am not. I am showcasing your limited ability to see the big picture.

    You're either just being self entitled and lazy. Or you're making a grossly inaccurate assumption that any random sampling of any percentage of the population(ie: 5%, 40%, 90%) will all yield the same results. Thereby making your vote pointless.

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    Let's just tie voting in to the registries. Don't vote, can't renew your license. Why benefit from the privilege of free society if you can't partake in one of its basic functions. At least this way it's not forced or mandatory. You're still free to choose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompletelyNumb View Post
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    Let's just tie voting in to the registries. Don't vote, can't renew your license. Why benefit from the privilege of free society if you can't partake in one of its basic functions. At least this way it's not forced or mandatory. You're still free to choose.

    Fuck that. The last thing I want is everyone being forced to vote. Have you seen the mental state of what appears to be majority of people? What they should do is tie your vote worth to the amount of taxes you paid. Then we would have statistical representation of government, by the people that directly fund the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Ditto, except for the newborn part.

    No chance in hell Rempel will lose.
    i honestly didn't even see ANY signs in my neighbourhood for other parties until like a week ago, and even then, just the tiny ones and only on public property. Haven't seen any non-blue signs on anyone's lawns. I think even the competitors know it's a waste of time here.

    Calgary Centre, way different story. I'd make sure to vote if i was in that riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabad66 View Post
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    Calgary Centre, way different story. I'd make sure to vote if i was in that riding.
    Yup. That's why it was important for me to vote this time.

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    I thought about not voting. But then I figured I have very little right to bitch about stuff if I don't even put my vote. Went and did advanced voting on Monday.

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    I voted early last week.

    It’s pretty pathetic how many people out there can’t spare 5-10 minutes of their “precious” time to cast a ballot. Sorry, but you’re not that busy that you can’t spare 5 minutes of your day. (Not sure where the 30 minute figure came from it’s a simple in and out?)

    Maybe all the time you non-voters are spending posting on beyond about how you’re not voting, would be better spent if you got off your asses and cast a ballot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxx Mazda View Post
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    I voted early last week.

    It’s pretty pathetic how many people out there can’t spare 5-10 minutes of their “precious” time to cast a ballot. Sorry, but you’re not that busy that you can’t spare 5 minutes of your day. (Not sure where the 30 minute figure came from it’s a simple in and out?)

    Maybe all the time you non-voters are spending posting on beyond about how you’re not voting, would be better spent if you got off your asses and cast a ballot.
    So your telling me that you want someone who knows fuck all about politics, whose running, who the parties are etc etc to go and vote? Why?

    I have no interest.. I'm not going to sit down and research something I have no care in the world about nor will I ever.

    Its your attitude that makes people who don't vote.. choose to even vote less because you try to force your ways, opinions and thoughts on to others.

    let us non-voters be and we'll leave you voters be and we will all live in a happy world

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    Downtown Calgary is the only swing vote battleground district for hundreds of miles. If you live outside downtown Calgary you can refer to what Buster says regarding your imperative to vote.

    I live in a district that's never had a non-conservative MP and never will, I do not support any party, don't see any compelling leaders, the popular vote doesn't count and Alberta gets an inconsequential number of seats at best.

    There's absolutely no need for me to vote but I do vote for fun, personally. For me it's just a scooter ride down the alley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01RedDX View Post
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    Downtown Calgary is the only swing vote battleground district for hundreds of miles. If you live outside downtown Calgary you can refer to what Buster says regarding your imperative to vote.

    I live in a district that's never had a non-conservative MP and never will, I do not support any party, don't see any compelling leaders, the popular vote doesn't count and Alberta gets an inconsequential number of seats at best.

    There's absolutely no need for me to vote but I do vote for fun, personally. For me it's just a scooter ride down the alley.
    Even in the swingiest of swing ridings, it's exceedingly unlikely that your vote will be the marginal one.

    I'm not lazy, I just have a good understanding of math and statistics.

    I also don't buy lottery tickets for the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01RedDX View Post
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    Downtown Calgary is the only swing vote battleground district for hundreds of miles. If you live outside downtown Calgary you can refer to what Buster says regarding your imperative to vote.

    I live in a district that's never had a non-conservative MP and never will, I do not support any party, don't see any compelling leaders, the popular vote doesn't count and Alberta gets an inconsequential number of seats at best.

    There's absolutely no need for me to vote but I do vote for fun, personally. For me it's just a scooter ride down the alley.
    Agreed. No point voting in most of Calgary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhariak View Post
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    If you lean towards any one party or leader in the slightest, you should vote.

    If you seriously don't have one preferred candidate, you should still go and spoil your ballot just as a sign you're participating in democracy (and all the history, fighting, and freedoms that come with it).

    Boils my blood when people don't vote, say "I don't care", or "I don't have time". People fought and died for our freedom to do things like this.
    Forgetting about all of the above. I think it's crazy that people don't vote when nearly half their income goes to the government to spend on their behalf... You'd think they'd want to have a say on how it's spent, lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhariak View Post
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    Forgetting about all of the above. I think it's crazy that people don't vote when nearly half their income goes to the government to spend on their behalf... You'd think they'd want to have a say on how it's spent, lmao.
    Again not voting is not an expression of apathy. It's an expression of understanding of simple statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhariak View Post
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    Forgetting about all of the above. I think it's crazy that people don't vote when nearly half their income goes to the government to spend on their behalf... You'd think they'd want to have a say on how it's spent, lmao.

    Then the system needs to work like this
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    Fuck that. The last thing I want is everyone being forced to vote. Have you seen the mental state of what appears to be majority of people? What they should do is tie your vote worth to the amount of taxes you paid. Then we would have statistical representation of government, by the people that directly fund the government.

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    I've already voted three times, get your asses out there.

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    I was curious after reading some comments that your votes don't matter, and what kind of participation the last general election received.

    From Wiki -

    The average voter turnout for Canada's general elections since 1867 has been 70.7%
    The highest voter turnouts were in 1958, 1960, and 1963, when voter turnout was over 79%.
    The lowest voter turnout on record was in 2008, when voter turnout fell to only 58.8%.
    Voter turnout in the 2011 federal election, at 61.4%, was the third lowest in Canadian history.
    Voter turnout rose sharply in the 2015 federal election to 68.5%, the highest turnout since 1993.

    I would say we had relatively good participation, but that should not deter anyone from voting. Your vote does count, and I think having more participation will in itself lead to more participation. I think the FOMO theory might apply here. In contrast, if everyone you talk to did not vote, maybe you subconsciously decide not to vote as everyone else isn't. Even voting for one of the smaller parties, if that is what you want is very helpful. It at minimum shows the support levels for the niche parties and maybe is the extra motivation they need to keep campaigning.

    As a comparison, the US voter participation.

    2004 55.7%
    2008 58.2%
    2012 54.9%
    2016 55.5% (estimated)

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