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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    I’m talking about motorcycles getting rear ended. Surprisingly it’s only 6% of all motorcycle accidents according to NHTSA. Ironically, in California with filtering law, it’s 25%.

    Motorcycles gets rear ended a lot less because drivers don’t tailgate motorcyclists like they do cars.
    Interesting. I'm looking at NHTSA that has it at 29% (2005 data). It's also important to note that portion of motorcycles rear ending other cars is at 68%.

    Of the 204 rear-end crashes between motorcycles and passenger vehicles, in 139 (68%)
    crashes the role of the motorcycle in the crash was recorded as striking the passenger vehicle, and in 59 (29%) crashes the role of the passenger vehicle was recorded as striking
    the motorcycle. Table 19 shows motorcycle operators killed and passenger vehicle drivers involved in two-vehicle crashes in 2005 by manner of collision and vehicle role.


    https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/810834

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    People will always overweight the seriousness of something bad happening when they feel the event is out of their control, regardless of it's statistical likelihood.
    It's the same reason people have a fear of flying, but they'll drive cars every day. the feeling that something bad could happen that they would be powerless to prevent.
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    For sure you should fight it. Lane splitting if legal in many places as it should be

    And drag it out if you can, ask for extensions to inconvenience the busy body
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    Quote Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp View Post
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    Interesting. I'm looking at NHTSA that has it at 29% (2005 data). It's also important to note that portion of motorcycles rear ending other cars is at 68%.

    Of the 204 rear-end crashes between motorcycles and passenger vehicles, in 139 (68%)
    crashes the role of the motorcycle in the crash was recorded as striking the passenger vehicle, and in 59 (29%) crashes the role of the passenger vehicle was recorded as striking
    the motorcycle. Table 19 shows motorcycle operators killed and passenger vehicle drivers involved in two-vehicle crashes in 2005 by manner of collision and vehicle role.


    https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/810834

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    You’re reading it wrong. First off this is just fatal collisions. Your 29 percent is specifically rear end crashes, where 29% of those were motorcycles getting rear ended. It’s a subset of the full data. Here’s the data from 2013 of all crashes.

    https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/812148

    In two-vehicle crashes, 74 percent of the motorcycles involved in motor vehicle traffic crashes were frontal collisions. Only 6 percent were struck in the rear.

    Honestly it’s such a minuscule number you’ll have better luck trying to push legalizing filtering because of climate change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    The "behavioural economics" of risk are tremendously fascinating.
    ES is tremendously fascinating as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedog View Post
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    ES is tremendously fascinating as well.
    I like to think we are all fascinating. But some beyond.ca members hide it really well.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Traffic Court isn't used to change laws. It's to interpret and uphold existing ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 16hypen3sp View Post
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    Passenger vehicles and large trucks are already ranked higher in safety, hence why AB Trans classifies motorcyclists, cyclists, pedestrians as vulnerable road users. Unsure of your 'convenience' argument. The studies have shown that filtering and splitting in general are safer than riding normally. I'm not more likely to be hit while filtering. I'm moving in stopped traffic. higher chance of being spit on maybe. The difference between you and I as riders is, one of us would rather sit in the crush zone, the other wouldn't.

    We can be honest here, you're doing it to get ahead, which makes it about convenience. But hey a bike can accelerate faster than a car, so as long as you get moving and get out of the way that's fine by me. The difference between you and I as riders, is I don't place myself in stupid situations that can get me hurt, just because I'm too lazy to keep an eye on my mirrors at a red light. But you do you booboo. If I'm at a light and some biker illegally pulls up next to me in my lane, I'm going to maintain my lane position when that light turns green, if the biker gets squashed because he can't GTFO of the way that is his issue to deal with. All I'm saying is safety goes both ways. You're no more safe by trading one crush zone for another, and with the amount of "new Canadians" in Alberta, you're taking a gamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    If I was still riding, I would go for this - however be aware that you will be hassled for it by morally outraged motorists and cops - just make sure to carry the law with you as well as the judgement.

    Many people here dont even know that its legal to pass on a SINGLE SOLID YELLOW line. I've had idiots honk and yell at me.

    Also, filtering has to be done at a slow enough speed differential and with slow or stopped traffic. Otherwise you end up like Eliott Hayward (snowcat) and smash.
    In all my years of lane splitting (edit: legal lanesplitting in Cali) never have I got into a collision. Some close calls, which would be drivers faults (passing from
    HOV lane to regular lane, illegal in Cali unless in a designated spot).

    Not sure why you want to spread dis information about me.

    As to the OP, I’m pretty sure there is a is a cause stating you cannot share a lane, I can’t find it as I’m on my phone.

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    Update:

    As I stated before, I wanted to request disclosure, so a few weeks ago I went down to the courthouse. I was directed to the Crown Prosecutor Traffic Assistant. I filled out the request form and they told me they'd call when it's ready.

    I haven't heard anything since. Court is on Dec. 18th. Since I work away, I needed to have my ducks in a row because I leave for work early next week and return the night before my court date. I just got back from visiting the Traffic Assistant. Disclosure was not available and may not be available prior to the court date. Issuing officer is still "working on getting it together."

    Just in case it is ready, I had to authorize someone else to pick it up on my behalf while I'm gone.

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    If the disclosure isn't ready, can the court date proceed?
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    If the disclosure isn't ready, can the court date proceed?
    The Traffic Assistant said if it's not ready, it will be adjourned to a later date. She seemed unsure about it tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowcat View Post
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    In all my years of lane splitting (edit: legal lanesplitting in Cali) never have I got into a collision. Some close calls, which would be drivers faults (passing from
    HOV lane to regular lane, illegal in Cali unless in a designated spot).

    Not sure why you want to spread dis information about me.

    As to the OP, I’m pretty sure there is a is a cause stating you cannot share a lane, I can’t find it as I’m on my phone.
    Sorry, I was getting your intentional/manufactured altercation videos mixed up with your lane splitting videos and the crash you had in the US.

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    Update: Got the call from Prosecutors office this morning that the disclosure was ready. I picked it up and it's a paper package as well as a disc.

    Paper package consists mostly of what I already have. There is a photocopy of the ticket. Officers notes page is mostly empty save for saying "Photo/Video, Drivers Complaint, Statement provided." There is a photocopy of the letter that was sent to me. There is a photocopy of the picture that was already sent to me.

    Now, there is also a copy of the drivers complaint, made by a Red Deer Catholic Regional School bus driver. It has her name with some info redacted (assuming it's her address). The gist of the complaint is she stopped at the stop line, truck was stopped at stop line, motorbike pulled down the dividing line in between bus and Dodge truck. She continued on her route and saw the motorbike pulling into my garage (my house is a designated pick up and drop off point for multiple school boards.) She also saw the same motorbike the next day going around the roundabout nearby town here.

    The last piece is a disc which has a short video clip. Video starts with - Bus stops at stop line first. Truck stops at stop line next. Bike signals left and proceeds out from behind school bus, between truck and bus to stop line. Video ends there.

    That concludes the disclosure.
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    You maniac, you are lucky you didn't kill someone.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    In the end, it is clear that the letter of the law regarding this is murky but there is consensus nationwide that it is illegal to do. No one gives a shit about motorcycles enough to have details about lane splitting.

    So if I were OP, I would just try to get a lesser charge and move on.
    It will be highly unlikely that the ticket will be tossed.

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    I'm curious to see the outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A790 View Post
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    I'm curious to see the outcome.
    Same. I know almost everything illegal (and some legal) driving errors can fall under stunting, but I'd love to hear the rational behind the officer charging OP with that.

    Surely there's a better charge. Improper lane change, illegal pass, something.

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    Yah. Court date is on Dec. 18th. Not too sure whats going to happen there. I'm assuming Crown with offer some sort of deal (reduced amount). I say screw the deal and set a date for trial? With my luck, they'll set a trial date for when I'm gone on vacation at the end of January or something lol.
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    You can go in before your court date and see what kind of deal they'll give you. You don't have to take it. You can always try again on your court date.
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    Is your goal to get a reduction or are you banking on the witness not showing up and having it tossed?

    Going in early and using you showing up to waste a few hours of the court's time as leverage to get a decent reduction seems like the best bet. It's probably not going to get tossed for lack of evidence and it's an RO ticket so no demerits or insurance hit.
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