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    Default Kenney moves to fire election commissioner

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    Just Kenney delusion.

    On a different note, he needs to come out of the closet and embrace being LBGQTRESREE++

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01RedDX View Post
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    Seriously what kind of shady petro-state dictatorship-style bullshit is this?

    https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...p-investigator
    over-react much?

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    When does the sky-palace get built? No one should be surprised by this...

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    I wrote my MLA this morning asking WTF the UCP is doing. Talk about bombarding us with a bunch of bullshit so we can't complain about it all.
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    Kenney firing government employees.

    Just like he was elected to do.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    This government has the entitlement and cronyism of the old PCs mixed with the social moxie of the WRA. The combo their voters deserve.

    Best election tool the federal Liberals could have ever asked for after the year they had.

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    So they fired a guy but all his work and investigations are still going ahead as planned. So what the issue besides this one guy losing his job?

    The government says current investigations will continue, whether Gibson is retained or not. All fines and penalties are still valid. All this has nothing to do with Premier Jason Kenney, they say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca_Silvia13 View Post
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    So they fired a guy but all his work and investigations are still going ahead as planned. So what the issue besides this one guy losing his job?
    The optics of this situation are far worse than the reality. It does create a situation where (and probably rightly) there are no good guys involved. The commissioner was an NDP appointment with an axe to grind. The UCP leadership race was some shady stuff, and the commissioner should have been fired. Both are true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01RedDX View Post
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    Seriously what kind of shady petro-state dictatorship-style bullshit is this?

    https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/co...p-investigator
    Hijacking teachers pensions.

    Blocking class size reporting.

    Forcing the removal of the world "public" from school boards

    War room.

    What else? Big pushy government. Isn't that what they said they would not be?
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    Herald summarize all this here:

    But there is a history with Gibson. And the UCP does not like it.

    Party leadership financing had been unregulated before the NDP passed laws in 2017.

    The NDP also created the election commission to enforce the law and hired Gibson to run it.

    He had once been the province’s chief electoral officer, until Progressive Conservative MLAs pushed him out in 2009.

    They were unhappy with his constant efforts to modernize the electoral system, while pointing out many little ways the PCs were gaming it.

    Parties, especially conservatives can't do shady shit with someone watching.

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    All of this to save 200K does not seem worth the backlash that had to have been expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    over-react much?
    Seems bang on to me- Unapologetically firing the guy looking into your shady ass campaign is about as bold as you can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronck View Post
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    Seems bang on to me- Unapologetically firing the guy looking into your shady ass campaign is about as bold as you can get.
    Not really. It was certainly a shady campaign - which was unnecessary given Kenney's lead. But if anyone was disenfranchised, it was the membership of the party. So not sure why Notley would care one way or the other.

    She created a job, then appointed someone with an axe to grind, whose main mission seems to have been to target the UCP.

    We already have oversight over elections in the province. Retaining a handpicked NDP partisan who hates the UCP for personal reasons doesn't seem like a reasonable position to take for Kenney either. I think they decided to bite the bullet, eat the shit now, and then move on. Probably a good move in the long run.

    This is basically two shady political moves, with a response that looks bad. Notley played this one well.

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    Straw man arguments are poor arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    All of this to save 200K does not seem worth the backlash that had to have been expected.
    $1.2M but since UCP members were fined $200K, it's $1M if Gibson's team is fully let go. Close to nothing if they are absorbed somewhere else.

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    This is basically two shady political moves, with a response that looks bad. Notley played this one well.
    Have to agree on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    All of this to save 200K does not seem worth the backlash that had to have been expected.
    It has nothing to do with the financial savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01RedDX View Post
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    Trudeau should have fired the ethics commissioner too - he had "an axe to grind!"

    Hey, Kenney is looking into disbanding the RCMP too. They too have an "axe to grind" with their investigation of him. Smart move amirite?

    "Retaining a police force that hates the UCP for personal reasons doesn't seem like a reasonable position to take for Kenney."

    Dude you are hilarious in the best possible (unintentional) way.
    Kenney isn't trying to disband the RCMP. It might come as a surprise to you, but a provincial premier can't disband a federal police force. What they can do is get rid of the contracts with the RCMP to provide police services and have a provincial force take over.

    When Quebec and Ontario do this, no problem. But when Alberta even thinks about it, it's a massive issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FraserB View Post
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    Kenney isn't trying to disband the RCMP. It might come as a surprise to you, but a provincial premier can't disband a federal police force. What they can do is get rid of the contracts with the RCMP to provide police services and have a provincial force take over.

    When Quebec and Ontario do this, no problem. But when Alberta even thinks about it, it's a massive issue.
    Im not sure I want something akin to the SQ and OPP. Neither sound like they've worked out fantastically (granted RCMP have their own issues).
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