Sooo.... anyone tow a camper with their Subaru WRX?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

There is no perfect dual purpose car that’s good for towing and sporty unless you are towing sub 1000lbs in my opinion. This is why I just got a truck and a car.

[killramos]

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This thread reeks of Mar.

This is like his 6th thread on the topic. Answer is always the same.

OP Just do it and make sure you leave the camera on for our lulz, and let us know which highways you are on so we can avoid.

[370Z]

No, I won't be a Mar.

I just fucking hate trucks/SUVs, I think unless you're an off roader, or you work in construction, or you have 2+ kids and need a giant camper, or just a large person in general, it's stupid. I am none of those and therefore do not wish to voluntarily own and drive a boring ass vehicle.

I hear you on the different specs between continents, thanks especially to you Darell N...

I guess this means I'll probably have to sell my X1 after the winter too

New plan, get a year round sports car, and spend a only few thousand on a hauler.

[The Cosworth]

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There is no perfect dual purpose car that’s good for towing and sporty unless you are towing sub 1000lbs in my opinion. This is why I just got a truck and a car.

Word, my trailer is 4800#'s dry and I have a heavy half-ton truck. I couldn't imagine towing it even with a base model. The geometry of heavy vehicles actually doesn't make it feel like there are thousands of pounds behind you going up that hill.

My truck will soon live by my trailer on the farm and just have a daily.

[revelations]

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I just fucking hate trucks/SUVs, I think unless you're an off roader, or you work in construction, or you have 2+ kids and need a giant camper, or just a large person in general, it's stupid. I am none of those and therefore do not wish to voluntarily own and drive a boring ass vehicle.

Same, I have a huge dislike for trucks/SUVs unless they are being purposefully being used. We have an old 2001 V10 f350 (gas) that is parked most of the time but is very useful when it comes time for summer trips and hauling. No need to have the latest vehicles when old/maintained trucks work better than many new ones.

[370Z]

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There is no perfect dual purpose car that’s good for towing and sporty unless you are towing sub 1000lbs in my opinion. This is why I just got a truck and a car.

Depends on your level of sporty you want though?

I'm looking at a 2013ish ML63 and it can tow 7000lbs... are you seriously going to tell me I'm going to have issues towing my 3000lb trailer? For me, even though it doesn't come in a manual i think I'm gonna have lots or year round fun in a Ml63 no? I just can't quite afford it right now lol

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Same, I have a huge dislike for trucks/SUVs unless they are being purposefully being used. We have an old 2001 V10 f350 (gas) that is parked most of the time but is very useful when it comes time for summer trips and hauling. No need to have the latest vehicles when old/maintained trucks work better than many new ones.

The only thing that worries me is breaking down in the middle of nowhere, my GLK was great and did the job, but it had 240,000km already and we're planning to camp in BC next year.

[Tik-Tok]

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No, I won't be a Mar.

I just fucking hate trucks/SUVs, I think unless you're an off roader, or you work in construction, or you have 2+ kids and need a giant camper, or just a large person in general, it's stupid. I am none of those and therefore do not wish to voluntarily own and drive a boring ass vehicle.

I hear you on the different specs between continents, thanks especially to you Darell N...

I guess this means I'll probably have to sell my X1 after the winter too

New plan, get a year round sports car, and spend a only few thousand on a hauler.

Oh, I feel your pain, trust me. I HATE daily driving a truck and did all the research before buying one, trying to find a car that's adequately tow capable, but they just aren't out there. I had a 2002 Audi Allroad with air suspension that was rated for 3500# in North America, but 5000# in Europe. I towed 3500# (loaded trailer) with it 1/2 dozen times and it could do it fine, but only in perfect conditions. Any crosswind, and I was getting fishtailed around the highway, emergency stopping? Nyope. It just wasn't safe.

[revelations]

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Depends on your level of sporty you want though?

I'm looking at a 2013ish ML63 and it can tow 7000lbs... are you seriously going to tell me I'm going to have issues towing my 3000lb trailer? For me, even though it doesn't come in a manual i think I'm gonna have lots or year round fun in a Ml63 no? I just can't quite afford it right now lol

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The only thing that worries me is breaking down in the middle of nowhere, my GLK was great and did the job, but it had 240,000km already and we're planning to camp in BC next year.

AMA for coverage here and with older vehicles is also preventative maintenance as well in many cases. I replaced my alternator on my 290,000 km civic, because winter.

[dirtsniffer]

Dont they have different speed limits for campers in Europe too?

[370Z]

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AMA for coverage here and with older vehicles is also preventative maintenance as well in many cases. I replaced my alternator on my 290,000 civic, because winter.

Oh I'm not worried about coverage, I'm worried about being broke down in n the middle of nowhere with no cell service.

[ExtraSlow]

@370Z , do you already have the trailer, or are you looking at a model in particular? If you can post a link to the trailer specs, I can assist in getting you realistic tongue weights, which are usually NOT included in the specs.

[revelations]

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Oh I'm not worried about coverage, I'm worried about being broke down in n the middle of nowhere with no cell service.

That can happen with any vehicle - new or used.

[90_Shelby]

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This is like his 6th thread on the topic. Answer is always the same.

I thought this thread sounded familiar.....

https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/410...an-tow-3500lbs

[never]

I tow my dump trailer/skid steer with a Focus RS and it seems fine.

[370Z]

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I thought this thread sounded familiar.....

https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/410...an-tow-3500lbs

Damn you're right Haha... this is how I know I'm spending too much time on here...

@killranos... see, I've only asked this once not 6 times

[FraserB]

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Depends on your level of sporty you want though?

I'm looking at a 2013ish ML63 and it can tow 7000lbs... are you seriously going to tell me I'm going to have issues towing my 3000lb trailer? For me, even though it doesn't come in a manual i think I'm gonna have lots or year round fun in a Ml63 no? I just can't quite afford it right now lol

You're fixated on the towing capacity when you need to be looking at more than just that. Payload on the ML is what, 1100lbs? Trailer is 3000lbs dry?

Take the loaded weight of the trailer and use 10-12% of that as tongue weight, remove that from the payload number. Then total up the weight of all the people and other stuff inside or on the car, subtract that. If you're getting anywhere close to 0 or going negative, you don't have enough vehicle. You'll blow your payload number before you hit towing capacity.

[speedog]

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You're fixated on the towing capacity when you need to be looking at more than just that. Payload on the ML is what, 1100lbs? Trailer is 3000lbs dry?

Take the loaded weight of the trailer and use 10-12% of that as tongue weight, remove that from the payload number. Then total up the weight of all the people and other stuff inside or on the car, subtract that. If you're getting anywhere close to 0 or going negative, you don't have enough vehicle. You'll blow your payload number before you hit towing capacity.

Simple math and yet people don't get it, thanks for your very simple but detailed explanation.

[spikerS]

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You're fixated on the towing capacity when you need to be looking at more than just that. Payload on the ML is what, 1100lbs? Trailer is 3000lbs dry?

Take the loaded weight of the trailer and use 10-12% of that as tongue weight, remove that from the payload number. Then total up the weight of all the people and other stuff inside or on the car, subtract that. If you're getting anywhere close to 0 or going negative, you don't have enough vehicle. You'll blow your payload number before you hit towing capacity.

This.

You have to do this math first before even looking at the trailer weight and if it is in your towing numbers. My truck has a 1700lbs payload. I know with me and the family in the truck and supplies, I try to keep any tongue weight <700lbs. That way I can keep the truck stable and not worry about overloading the suspension, especially in the rear. a WD hitch helps a lot with this.

But yeah, this topic has been flogged to death and back again many times over. Long story short, don't even try. But if you decide to, as others have said, record it for the lulz.

[370Z]

Cool, cool thanks.... hopefully I remember this thread come summer time lol

[The Cosworth]

My wives SUV is 'capable' of towing my trailer. I've even seen people do it. I hooked it up for fun this summer and drug it around the yard. Literally smashing off the bumpstops, bottoming out, I think I took it about 20 feet before I unhooked it and got our truck to go and put it back.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.