PHEV thread (potentially mega)

[benyl]

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That’s not really the point of a plug-in PHEV though, my understanding is largely the point is to have enough battery for day to day driving. And ICE for range when you need it.

You win by not turning on the ICE for 90% of your driving rather than fuel economy savings in hybrid mode. At least that’s my understanding.

Your understanding is correct. At work, the dude with the Volt is always asking for the charger so he doesn't have to run his generator on the way home.

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I would have major anxiety travelling in this country in a PHEV. That said I would have no issues using one in the city as my daily. I'm just waiting for one that isn't a Tesla, doesn't look like ass, or cost as much as an exotic. In the meantime I'm perfectly happy enjoying the golden age of ICE vehicles as a lot of the new engines from some manufacturers are fantastic.

[killramos]

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I would have major anxiety travelling in this country in a PHEV. That said I would have no issues using one in the city as my daily. I'm just waiting for one that isn't a Tesla, doesn't look like ass, or cost as much as an exotic. In the meantime I'm perfectly happy enjoying the golden age of ICE vehicles as a lot of the new engines from some manufacturers are fantastic.

I’m getting the sense that you don’t know what a PHEV is

[arcticcat522]

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I would have major anxiety travelling in this country in a PHEV. That said I would have no issues using one in the city as my daily. I'm just waiting for one that isn't a Tesla, doesn't look like ass, or cost as much as an exotic. In the meantime I'm perfectly happy enjoying the golden age of ICE vehicles as a lot of the new engines from some manufacturers are fantastic.

You are forgetting about the "H"

[heavyD]

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You are forgetting about the "H"

Isn't it just BEV? I can't keep up with the acronyms.

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I’m getting the sense that you don’t know what a PHEV is

I do but I am also lazy when it comes to acronyms. I'm personally not overly interested in hybrids unless it's NSX style or thoe 48V generator types that are used to help eliminate turbo lag.

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That’s not really the point of a plug-in PHEV though, my understanding is largely the point is to have enough battery for day to day driving. And ICE for range when you need it.

You win by not turning on the ICE for 90% of your driving rather than fuel economy savings in hybrid mode. At least that’s my understanding.

Oh I agree. I was just disagreeing with the fact that it's just hauling batteries on the highway.

[JustinL]

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I'm personally not overly interested in hybrids unless it's NSX style

So an Internal Combustion Engine on one axle with a motor generator unit to boost power and generate energy. On the other axle a second motor generator to give the vehicle an electronic AWD system. A vehicle that can be run in different modes from maximum power hybrid mode, electric only mode, or charge hold mode... Also a plug to charge up the batteries at home or a remote charging station.

[Xtrema]

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I would have major anxiety travelling in this country in a PHEV. That said I would have no issues using one in the city as my daily. I'm just waiting for one that isn't a Tesla, doesn't look like ass, or cost as much as an exotic. In the meantime I'm perfectly happy enjoying the golden age of ICE vehicles as a lot of the new engines from some manufacturers are fantastic.

For the next 5 years at least, I would be way more comfortable leaving home with PHEV than BEV since gas stations out number chargers by a lot and PHEV has slightly more range than ICE.

The only downside of PHEV is complexity and have 2 drive trains = 2x more likelihood of issues.

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For the next 5 years at least, I would be way more comfortable leaving home with PHEV than BEV since gas stations out number chargers by a lot and PHEV has slightly more range than ICE.

The only downside of PHEV is complexity and have 2 drive trains = 2x more likelihood of issues.

Have PHEV been sold in quantities large enough to generate any long term reliability stats?

[ExtraSlow]

I assume they'd be pretty similar to regular hybrids? And aren't those pretty decent? I guess that's two big assumptions. I mean, taxi companies have been using hybrid prius and campry models for years.

[Darkane]

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I assume they'd be pretty similar to regular hybrids? And aren't those pretty decent? I guess that's two big assumptions. I mean, taxi companies have been using hybrid prius and campry models for years.

Yes, I think they are.

Last Vegas trip I think I counted a handful of old hybrid escapes. Like 15 years old lol.

[Xtrema]

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I assume they'd be pretty similar to regular hybrids? And aren't those pretty decent? I guess that's two big assumptions. I mean, taxi companies have been using hybrid prius and campry models for years.

Most hybrids still uses air cooled NIMH from the 90s. Tried and true as you are not driving with them, they only assist. And there are a lot of reconditioned parts in the long run.

PHEV run on Li-Ion battery packs and requires a lot of temperature management to keep them from degrading, especially in cold weather.

[got_mike33]

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It's not weird at at all. PHEV or not the RAV-4 is a mediocre vehicle. Volvo's have poor reliability. Just doing my due diligence in hopes of educating people.

So what would a good SUV be, in your opinion?

[ExtraSlow]

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So what would a good SUV be, in your opinion?

A good affordable SUV.

[ExtraSlow]

Honda to make a Phev version of the CRV

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Honda to make a Phev version of the CRV

That was last year wasn’t it?

https://automobiles.honda.com/cr-v#features-hybrid

Already on sale in the US.

[benyl]

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That was last year wasn’t it?

https://automobiles.honda.com/cr-v#features-hybrid

Already on sale in the US.

That’s looks like a traditional hybrid, not PHEV.

[ExtraSlow]

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That was last year wasn’t it?

https://automobiles.honda.com/cr-v#features-hybrid

Already on sale in the US.

I think they had a hybrid, but are introducing a plug-in hybrid. I think.

[ExtraSlow]

Driving.ca is mostly junk journalism. But explains why people get horny for Plug-in hybrids.
https://driving.ca/toyota/rav4/featu...in-hybrids/amp

[Xtrema]

Speaking of horny, look at the new Jazz (The Honda Fit we ain't getting).

https://insideevs.com/reviews/443380...-review-video/

So it kind of behaves like a CVT, but it is not one. As previously mentioned, the fact that the engine only drives the wheels directly at higher speeds is similar to the Koenigsegg Regera.

It's now a budget Koenigsegg!