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    Quote Originally Posted by A790 View Post
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    Right? I've been having this argument with other people.

    The hell does Iran have to gain shooting down a passenger airliner and killing its own people?
    It took attention of the world off the ww3 pissing match for one and immediately de-escalated it.

    It actually benefits the anti-regime forces mostly. Which is why I keep saying who actually fired the rocket. There was a Iranian republican guard unit in the vicinity of where it came from - doesn't mean the man at the switch was acting as ordered.

    It benefits a lot of groups more than khomenei. There's as much reason to believe it's an intentional act to destabilize, as there is to believe it's a horrible mistake.

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    1 - spies on board
    2 - straight up accident
    3 - someone angry that their fellow countrymen are fleeing in irans time of need and hits the button out of spite
    4 - the democrats egged on iran somehow, to try and bait trump into a much bigger scandal (this is why they held up sending the articles of impeachment to Senate) which are now going thru next week now that Trump outsmarted them yet again
    5 - system was hacked to escalate the situation

    the list of could be's goes on and on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supa Dexta View Post
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    4 - the democrats egged on iran somehow, to try and bait trump into a much bigger scandal (this is why they held up sending the articles of impeachment to Senate) which are now going thru next week now that Trump outsmarted them yet again.
    Right.

    While not out of the realm of possibility, occams razor and all that...

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    One of our clients who was in our office last night to plan their project, their extended family was on that plane. Crazy. And tragic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supa Dexta View Post
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    1 - spies on board
    But not on the 7 other flights that departed that morning?

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    2 - straight up accident
    More likely
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    3 - someone angry that their fellow countrymen are fleeing in irans time of need and hits the button out of spite
    So again why not all the flights?

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    5 - system was hacked to escalate the situation
    Early 80s solviet mobile launchers... beyond encrypted 2way radio - do you really think it had a data connection To hack. Pretty much these are stand alone units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A790 View Post
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    Right.

    While not out of the realm of possibility, occams razor and all that...
    I guess the bright side is that at least it made it 16 pages before someone blamed this on the democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabad66 View Post
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    I guess the bright side is that at least it made it 16 pages before someone blamed this on the democrats.
    I don't think he was being serious.

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    Lets not forget that the plane's takeoff was delayed by an hour. The SAM missile site might not have known this, identified it as a military aircraft due to the flight pattern/altitude/time, and shot it down in a case of mistaken ID. That could happen pretty easily.

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    This will turn into another debacle of 'who shot the missile' just like MH17.

    The Russian (alleged) missile could have been shot by any number of parties involved. Even a third party might have been involved.

    Misinformation and disinformation abound.

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    Footage filmed on Friday shows the current state of the site where Ukrainian Airlines #PS752 crashed in Tehran. Several vehicles and locals can seen on site and virtually all wreckage from the crashed plane has been removed. https://t.co/pWApT9ysic
    I know how dare we have a question on such a technical matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    This will turn into another debacle of 'who shot the missile' just like MH17.

    The Russian (alleged) missile could have been shot by any number of parties involved. Even a third party might have been involved.

    Misinformation and disinformation abound.
    It was obviously Iran
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    So what are the expected repercussions from Canada? Will Iran be forced to pay out to Canada and families?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oster View Post
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    So what are the expected repercussions from Canada? Will Iran be forced to pay out to Canada and families?
    An optimist I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtsniffer View Post
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    It was obviously Iran
    Just because a russian missile was fired from iran, does not 100% mean it was iranians involved. Could have been a rogue party/element within the country who wanted to down this specific ship.

    The chances are good that its an iranian military fuckup, but that does not make it 100%.

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    Does Iran have a lot of people running around with modern SAM systems within their borders?
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Does Iran have a lot of people running around with modern SAM systems within their borders?
    I have no idea - how far fetched would this be for this country? Its not exactly Canada. And you dont need a massive SAM system - 1 or 2 MANPADS would do it just fine.

    My point is, believe nothing in terms of responsibility, that we are told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oster View Post
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    So what are the expected repercussions from Canada? Will Iran be forced to pay out to Canada and families?
    Fuck that, we will be paying Iran for the emotional suffering and lack of consultations. We didn't have social license in the first place.
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    Quds reportedly has some in Syria... So - it's pretty much Iran who'd have to tell us. But all theirs are accounted for they claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    Quds reportedly has some in Syria... So - it's pretty much Iran who'd have to tell us. But all theirs are accounted for they claim.
    The Americans have sold MANPADS to pretty much anyone over there. There is huge concern from the American military about this and no doubt they have been downed by their own tech.

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    MANPADS is the name of my sex tape, boom!
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