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    Aren't most of the longstanding divisions over there because of differing versions of Islam? Like Shia, Sunni, etc? I thought the various types could never cooperate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Aren't most of the longstanding divisions over there because of differing versions of Islam? Like Shia, Sunni, etc? I thought the various types could never cooperate?
    We are such a pathetic species because we don't see eye to eye due to different mythical sky gods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jutes View Post
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    We are such a pathetic species because we don't see eye to eye due to different mythical sky gods.
    And in most cases they aren’t even different sky gods! Islam, Judaism, Christianity all believe in the same god. It’s nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabad66 View Post
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    And in most cases they aren’t even different sky gods! Islam, Judaism, Christianity all believe in the same god. It’s nuts
    Religion in itself is nuts in this day and age.

    Seriously

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
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    Religion in itself is nuts in this day and age.

    Seriously

    Too stupid for Science? Religion might be right for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Aren't most of the longstanding divisions over there because of differing versions of Islam? Like Shia, Sunni, etc? I thought the various types could never cooperate?
    Every religion has the "only" true god, and then judges/persecutes anyone who thinks otherwise.

    They're all cancer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSC00LUDE View Post
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    Every religion has the "only" true god, and then judges/persecutes anyone who thinks otherwise.

    They're all cancer.
    So many will say exactly this and then will regularly gather with other like minded individuals seeking forgiveness from and offering praise to their select god. Most likely there are at least a few beyond members who fall into such a category, personally I have nor defined myself as connected to any sort of religion since before I was a teenager.

    My parents, although both Causcaian, were of two different faiths and that was a very unsettling matter in the 50's when they got married. My mom never once asked my dad to convert to her religion and vice versa and yet here we are some60+ years and they are still happily married.

    For my wife and I, again both Caucasian, neither of us are religious by any means. She believes in a higher power but will not define it, she just thinks there is something out there bigger than us mortal beings and I guess I am sort of along the same lines. None of our kids were baptized including whatever happens after that and I know that we are judged by other family members because of that to the point being not included in certain gatherings in the past, family gatherings that did not even include religion per say.

    My wife and I are quite at ease with all of that though, we judge less and are more accepting than my supposed religious and church going God fearing brothers and their families. Laughable really but it does free up my Sunday's because I don't have to go to church to beg forgiveness for the sins I have done in the past week, everything is okay because it'll all be forgiven on Sunday. Some motto to live by.

    Fast forward to today's word and I have adopted kids who are not Causcaian and even our own kids who have dated others who are most definitely into some aort of organized religion. All of them have eventually ended any relationship that involved a religion to be and part of the life experiance of moving forward with that person. We have never encouraged or discouraged such when they have come to us seeking guidance, we've only offered that they go into whatever lies ahead of them with their eyes and minds wide open as their parents may have had their heads up their asses this whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSC00LUDE View Post
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    Every religion has the "only" true god, and then judges/persecutes anyone who thinks otherwise.

    They're all cancer.
    Not entirely true. In Japan a significant portion of the population worship both the Shinto religion and Buddism in parallel. Both religions exist without judging/condemning people that worship another god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabad66 View Post
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    And in most cases they aren’t even different sky gods! Islam, Judaism, Christianity all believe in the same god. It’s nuts
    At the very least, Christianity's God is different from the other two.


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    Religion in itself is nuts in this day and age.

    Seriously
    How so?


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    Every religion has the "only" true god, and then judges/persecutes anyone who thinks otherwise.

    They're all cancer.
    And here you are, again, judging those who think different from you. I'm curious as to how you justify this double-standard.

    Are religions or religious people the only ones that judge and persecute others? Is any belief system that judges and persecutes others a cancer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duaner View Post
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    At the very least, Christianity's God is different from the other two.
    Seems crazy that two different Gods have the same origin story.

    I guess God dies between the Old and New Testaments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    Seems crazy that two different Gods have the same origin story.

    I guess God dies between the Old and New Testaments?
    Interesting, and not to derail fully - but - in essence yes.

    Orthodoxy believe the holy trinity, God, son of god, and the Holy Spirit. The Trinity was only formed essentially after BC. Therefore, new testament.

    God has always been God in the traditional sense though.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."

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    Quote Originally Posted by duaner View Post
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    At the very least, Christianity's God is different from the other two.
    How you figure?




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    How so??
    Because we know enough about how the world works that we shouldn't need to believe in invisible sky people due to our fear of death.




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    And here you are, again, judging those who think different from you. I'm curious as to how you justify this double-standard.

    Are religions or religious people the only ones that judge and persecute others? Is any belief system that judges and persecutes others a cancer?

    Using basic observation principles isn't quite the same as judging someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    Not entirely true. In Japan a significant portion of the population worship both the Shinto religion and Buddism in parallel. Both religions exist without judging/condemning people that worship another god.
    That is a valid correction.

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    And here you are, again, judging those who think different from you. I'm curious as to how you justify this double-standard.
    You have a habit of confusing positions as judgements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    How you figure?
    He figures because his god is the "right" one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    He figures because his god is the "right" one.
    Classic duaner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duaner View Post
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    At the very least, Christianity's God is different from the other two.




    How so?




    And here you are, again, judging those who think different from you. I'm curious as to how you justify this double-standard.

    Are religions or religious people the only ones that judge and persecute others? Is any belief system that judges and persecutes others a cancer?
    Cause most humans are smart enough to realize that magical beings don’t exist and that religions were formed to take advantage of the misinformed and to steal their hard earned money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    Seems crazy that two different Gods have the same origin story.

    I guess God dies between the Old and New Testaments?
    God doesn't die between the OT and NT but rather reveals more of himself in the NT (as he often does throughout the OT), or at least clarifies certain aspects. It simply doesn't follow that the same origin story results in belief in the same god. Bear in mind that Christianity grew out of Judaism, as Jesus is the Jewish Messiah; Islam came along 600 years after Christianity, with no real connection to either (although a weak case can perhaps be made, as some do, that Islam is a heretical Christian cult). Sometimes new religions or cults grow out of existing religions by changing some of the core things, such as the very nature of "God".

    Regardless, the Christian God is fundamentally and irreconcilably different than the Muslim god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    How you figure?
    Because they are fundamentally different; anyone who has studied both religions knows this. The Christian God is a Trinity, which is blasphemous in Islam. Their natures are irreconcilably different.

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    Because we know enough about how the world works that we shouldn't need to believe in invisible sky people due to our fear of death.
    I don't know of a single Christian that believes this.

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    Using basic observation principles isn't quite the same as judging someone.
    Calling religion cancer is a judgment; it's equating religion and religious belief with something that kills people, something that needs to fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    He figures because his god is the "right" one.
    Anyone who has studied both religions beyond a superficial depth knows this to be the case. That I stated the Christian God is different has absolutely nothing to do with my believing he is the only true God; it just means that he is different from the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSC00LUDE View Post
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    You have a habit with confusing positions as judgements.
    No, you made a judgement. Equating religion and religious belief with something that needs to be eradicated is a judgement.

    So, how about my other questions: Are religions or religious people the only ones that judge and persecute others? Is any belief system that judges and persecutes others a cancer?


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    Cause most humans are smart enough to realize that magical beings don’t exist and that religions were formed to take advantage of the misinformed and to steal their hard earned money.
    Isn't it interesting then that most humans are religious. Not to mention that religious people have always been among the most intellectual and informed people around. Of course, I know of no religion that believes in magical beings, although there could be one or two.

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