cca 450 is it enough for this -30 weather?

[rach]

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Just checked the specs - 450 CCA is typical for the 07 Civic. From what I gather, its not just the CCA alone that determines the relative performance of a battery in minus stupid.

On my Civic, I have always gotten the best battery possible - which usually is the Eliminator series from Canadian Tire (lasted 8 years in cold service then died suddenly in the summer).

Having said that, if you can fit a slightly oversized battery in the bay, I would also recommend this for more cold weather performance.

I thought 450 is a bit low consider we are in alberta
i do have a bit of room to put a bigger one in..next one i buy will be more than 450cca for sure

[revelations]

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I thought 450 is a bit low consider we are in alberta
i do have a bit of room to put a bigger one in..next one i buy will be more than 450cca for sure

Yea in my 03 civic, I measured out the space and got a taller battery.

What also really helps is a battery heater. You will get more juice out of any battery this way.

[benz_890]

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Having said that, if you can fit a slightly oversized battery in the bay, I would also recommend this for more cold weather performance.

I'll be upgrading the POS group 51 battery to a 24. IDK what Honda was thinking jamming those power wheels batteries in their cars

[Mitsu3000gt]

Go buy an AGM battery. The are cheap (Civic should be $150 or less), hold their charge a ridiculous amount of time (say, if you go on a long vacation), and hold power in the deep cold very well. Emergency and first responder vehicles use them for this reason, and there is no liquid inside so they are safer (which is also why boats use them). My old car used to sit outside in -30 for several days at a time and it would fire up no problem at all every time without a block heater. Use synthetic oil as well so your oil isn't thicker than molasses when you go to start it.

[rach]

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Go buy an AGM battery. The are cheap (Civic should be $150 or less), hold their charge a ridiculous amount of time (say, if you go on a long vacation), and hold power in the deep cold very well. Emergency and first responder vehicles use them for this reason, and there is no liquid inside so they are safer (which is also why boats use them). My old car used to sit outside in -30 for several days at a time and it would fire up no problem at all every time without a block heater. Use synthetic oil as well so your oil isn't thicker than molasses when you go to start it.

where can i buy AGM battery?

[Mitsu3000gt]

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where can i buy AGM battery?

Pretty well anywhere that sells batteries - the easiest thing is just go to Canadian Tire and look up what size you need in the books they have. They are cheaper now too, looks like around $100:

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/searc...=AGM%20battery

Also AGM is a type, not a brand, sorry if that wasn't clear - it means absorbent glass mat.

[rach]

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Pretty well anywhere that sells batteries - the easiest thing is just go to Canadian Tire and look up what size you need in the books they have. They are cheaper now too, looks like around $100:

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/searc...=AGM%20battery

Also AGM is a type, not a brand, sorry if that wasn't clear - it means absorbent glass mat.

ok got it, mine is from canadain tire as well

[firebane]

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Just checked the specs - 450 CCA is typical for the 07 Civic. From what I gather, its not just the CCA alone that determines the relative performance of a battery in minus stupid.

On my Civic, I have always gotten the best battery possible - which usually is the Eliminator series from Canadian Tire (lasted 8 years in cold service then died suddenly in the summer).

Having said that, if you can fit a slightly oversized battery in the bay, I would also recommend this for more cold weather performance.

A 4 cylinder vehicle with a starter the size of a golf ball doesn't take much to turn over lol.

[rach]

so i fully charged the battery, still wont turn over, its cranking slowily.
so next move is to try jumping it with another car?

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so i fully charged the battery, still wont turn over, its cranking slowily.
so next move is to try jumping it with another car?

Yep, that battery is done (how old was it?) - next step is to use another vehicle to start - but note that you may not be able to restart the car if it sits too long.

[rach]

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Yep, that battery is done (how old was it?) - next step is to use another vehicle to start - but note that you may not be able to restart the car if it sits too long.

it was bought june 17, 2019

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car has been sitting for one day...is that too long?

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it was bought june 17, 2019

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car has been sitting for one day...is that too long?

No, thats a bad battery that needs to be returned then.

[firebane]

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it was bought june 17, 2019

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car has been sitting for one day...is that too long?

No way a battery of less than a year should be having these issues. Where was it bought and what year was it made? Should be a white sticker to say this.

If its got a warranty just take it in.

[rach]

from canadaian tire, motormaster..
calling for warranty now

[ExtraSlow]

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so i fully charged the battery, still wont turn over, its cranking slowily.
so next move is to try jumping it with another car?

No. Next step is to fix the battery. Warm it up (in your house), then charge it, then take it to get tested, then use the failed test to get your partial replacement under warranty. Then take that new battery, charge it to 100% in your house (not your unheated garage) and THEN try to start the car.

Boosting this car once isn't going to help anything.

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from canadaian tire, motormaster..
calling for warranty now

You carry the battery up to their counter. Phoning doesn't do anything.

[firebane]

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No. Next step is to fix the battery. Warm it up (in your house), then charge it, then take it to get tested, then use the failed test to get your partial replacement under warranty. Then take that new battery, charge it to 100% in your house (not your unheated garage) and THEN try to start the car.

Boosting this car once isn't going to help anything.

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You carry the battery up to their counter. Phoning doesn't do anything.

Don't charge batteries in a house.. bad bad bad. They can left off dangerous gasses.

[speedog]

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Don't charge batteries in a house.. bad bad bad. They can left off dangerous gasses.

I vent off dangerous gases, should I be recharging myself outside?

[revelations]

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Don't charge batteries in a house.. bad bad bad. They can left off dangerous gasses.

You can trickle charge a battery in a house, but I wouldn't do a >5-10 amp charge for eg.

[ExtraSlow]

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Don't charge batteries in a house.. bad bad bad. They can left off dangerous gasses.

Hydrogen, you mean? Don't charge them in an enclosed space maybe.

[firebane]

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Hydrogen, you mean? Don't charge them in an enclosed space maybe.

Kitchen table?