Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[ZenOps]

If you ask me, the single best thing they could do is spend a thousand bucks and get a constantly running air purifier for every classroom (along with UV equipped Roomba for overnight cleaning)

[dirtsniffer]

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Walk me through the mental math behind this estimate

Haha shit. Maybe it was a NY or another state. Or maybe total beds. Didn't really walk through it. Even at a few hundred it is at low capacity.

[Xtrema]

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Fuck off, mainstream news and their fear mongering.

Well we went from 40/day to 160/day. So that's 4x more people infected out there than a month ago and 40% of them are not wearing masks.

R1.5 means it won't be long before it's out of hand.

And signs of blood clots from autopsy means you won't be the same even if you survives it and it may be years before we learnt long term effects.

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Haha shit. Maybe it was a NY or another state. Or maybe total beds. Didn't really walk through it. Even at a few hundred it is at low capacity.

Numbers ain't that bad. But knowing the numbers from US, deaths lags ICU utilization, ICU utilization lags confirmation. We just relaxed access protocol to long term care home last week just when numbers starts to go up. Getting the virus back into one of those homes can easily wipe out a chunk of beds.

[A790]

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Wear masks in common indoor public spaces, wash hands, get back to work, get the economy going, get back to schools.

It's funny how close you are and yet so far off at the same time.

You act like this is some simple thing the MSM is preventing society from doing. Have you looked around you and seen how fucking dumb people are? Every single dumb motherfucker that refuses to wear a mask when they go grocery shopping is someone actively choosing to extend how long this pandemic drags on for.

Dumb motherfuckers everywhere, including our fair share of jackasses on beyond, treat wearing a mask as if it's some personal affront. Too many dumb motherfuckers that are incapable of making a simple change of routine when it can help us put this shit behind us.

[ExtraSlow]

@The Cosworth obviously your wife has to make the decision that she (and you) feel is best for your family. Is she can easily switch careers and that's something she is okay with, then that's great. I wish you health and happiness.

However, most jobs right now carry some risk of Covid19 transmission, and it's not up to the government to attempt to make that risk zero. I've always been under the impression public health policies were designed primarily to keep hospital capacity reasonable, and not to reduce the total number of infections in healthy people. Reducing the total number of infections longer term doesn't even seem like a reasonable goal. I personally have always assumed that I have very high odds of catching this disease before a vaccine is available to me.

I understand the current government and the teachers union have a very adversarial relationship, but that doesn't mean that every decision they make is wrong. Opening schools is NOT (sorry to say) primarily about the teachers or the kids. It's about getting the economy functioning more normally so people can pay the taxes that fund everything.

[adam c]

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If you ask me, the single best thing they could do is spend a thousand bucks and get a constantly running air purifier for every classroom (along with UV equipped Roomba for overnight cleaning)

Some teachers are speaking out that it's up to them to provide cleaning supplies, safety items (masks, sanitzier), and perform cleaning because there's no budget for this, so this won't be happening

[ZenOps]

If Kanye can do free Marijuanna, how hard could it be to print up money to buy some air purifiers?

[pheoxs]

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Some teachers are speaking out that it's up to them to provide cleaning supplies, safety items (masks, sanitzier), and perform cleaning because there's no budget for this, so this won't be happening

Given that pens and pencils are too expensive for schools to purchase I doubt they'll all of a sudden feel generous and provide cleaning supplies ... our school system is so messed up.

[Xtrema]

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Given that pens and pencils are too expensive for schools to purchase I doubt they'll all of a sudden feel generous and provide cleaning supplies ... our school system is so messed up.

This is why I think the teacher union will pull the safety card as current contract expires Aug 31st.

Whatever the government say today about back to school may start that ball rolling.

[The Cosworth]

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@The Cosworth obviously your wife has to make the decision that she (and you) feel is best for your family. Is she can easily switch careers and that's something she is okay with, then that's great. I wish you health and happiness.

However, most jobs right now carry some risk of Covid19 transmission, and it's not up to the government to attempt to make that risk zero. I've always been under the impression public health policies were designed primarily to keep hospital capacity reasonable, and not to reduce the total number of infections in healthy people. Reducing the total number of infections longer term doesn't even seem like a reasonable goal. I personally have always assumed that I have very high odds of catching this disease before a vaccine is available to me.

I understand the current government and the teachers union have a very adversarial relationship, but that doesn't mean that every decision they make is wrong. Opening schools is NOT (sorry to say) primarily about the teachers or the kids. It's about getting the economy functioning more normally so people can pay the taxes that fund everything.

Oh I totally agree with you all of on that. Long term the prospects of being a teacher even without covid is looking like a losing proposition. So this might just be the nail in the coffin. I assume we will get it as well, but I feel that having her in a room with 30 8-9 year olds greatly greatly increases that odds or severity.

[adam c]

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This is why I think the teacher union will pull the safety card as current contract expires Aug 31st.

Whatever the government say today about back to school may start that ball rolling.

Might be the only time I would support a teachers strike

[lasimmon]

10 people on the train with me today. Only 3 of us wearing masks.

How long till things are locked down again?

[A790]

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10 people on the train with me today. Only 3 of us wearing masks.

How long till things are locked down again?

Not long.

[lil*tymer]

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Some teachers are speaking out that it's up to them to provide cleaning supplies, safety items (masks, sanitzier), and perform cleaning because there's no budget for this, so this won't be happening

That's not true, schools have lots of disinfect for each classroom, every classroom will have hand sanitizer as well, in Calgary at least.

[The Cosworth]

I wear a mask almost all the time when I am out of my house / desk. Went into Hal's tire yesterday, gas station, etc. No one is wearing masks. Not customers. Not employees. Bonkers

[adam c]

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That's not true, schools have lots of disinfect for each classroom, every classroom will have hand sanitizer as well, in Calgary at least.

Potentially, I don't have a direct connection, perhaps
@The costworth or @MalibuStacy can chime in as they should be able to speak to it

[ExtraSlow]

Mask wearing seems to be somewhere that peer pressure really works. When the prevalence is low, it's mentally difficult to stand out by wearing one. Same thing on the other side, if 90% of people in a situation are wearing them, it's easy to go along and wear one.

Human brains are funny, and conformity is always the easiest path.

[adam c]

The first couple times I wore a mask, I felt odd, now I don't give a shit what other people think, it's my body and safety

[pheoxs]

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10 people on the train with me today. Only 3 of us wearing masks.

How long till things are locked down again?

Didnt the city make masks mandatory on transit yesterday? Anyone know when it becomes effective? And I wonder if they'll actually enforce it

[lasimmon]

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Didnt the city make masks mandatory on transit yesterday? Anyone know when it becomes effective? And I wonder if they'll actually enforce it

I thought they kicked any decision down the road?