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    Science shows Children and Young People Experience Mild Symptoms After Contracting Covid19

    - According to a systematic review of 1,215 peer reviewed studies conducted since the emergence of the virus, between 14.6% to 42% of children experience a completely asymptomatic infection.

    - Of those who do experience symptoms, the most common are fever and cough; “proportions with fever ranged from 46% to 64.2% and with cough from 32% to 55.9%.”

    - The science reveals that “All other symptoms or signs including rhinorrhoea, sore throat, headache, fatigue/myalgia and gastrointestinal symptoms including diarrhoea and vomiting were infrequent, occurring in less than 10%–20%.” Scientists have also confirmed that symptoms tend to worsen if the patient is an advanced age, or suffers from preexisting conditions.

    ---> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7747494/

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    However, Young People Experience Same Or Worse Adverse Reactions To COVID Vaccines as Older adults

    - Young people are more likely to experience severe symptoms. The researchers discovered that “Systemic reactions, including fatigue, headache, myalgia, chills, fever, and joint pain, occurred in participants after the first dose, although they were more frequently reported after the second dose among both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccine recipients.” They add, “Persons 65 years and older reported less reactogenicity than younger persons.”

    --> https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2778441

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    Children, and young people have very low chance of experiencing serious symptoms let alone death from Covid 19, but have a worse chance of experiencing serious adverse reactions from the vaxx than older individuals. Another thing to note is the risk of Myocarditis in young boys from the vaxx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littledan View Post
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    I would argue that the lack of flu had more to do with travel restrictions and border closings than masking and social distancing. Shelter in place would obviously have an effect but I don't think that wearing a cloth mask and standing 6 feet apart contributed to the reduction in the flu. If the flu can't make it into Canada then you can't get the subsequent community spread. Just like how we wouldn't have any Covid if they legit did a 100% border close on China before it escaped Wuhan
    These people don't understand the origins of seasonal flu, just as much as they don't understand COVID, so it's really the same same for them. Its a really helpless bunch
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    Quote Originally Posted by redline View Post
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    this ^^^

    the flu had nothing to do with the boarder.... everything to do with masking, washing hands, massive public shaming for being out when sick, distancing lockdowns etc...

    the Flu is already hear it is does not need the broader to spread...
    This is untrue. There is a reason we can develop vaccine yearly that is attempting to target the specific strain of the flu that afflicts us every year, and its because it originates in other continents and the dominant strain can be identified and then acted upon. Yes flu lives dormant locally, but the border closures definitely did have an effect on transmission of the dominant flu strain occurring where it starts first (typically)

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    Unless they closed china's borders right when the WIV outbreak started!

    I guess thats what you get when a chimeric virus designed to infect humans gets released. Cant put that shit back in the bottle.
    Except at that point is was already too late. There still is investigation into what the actual time COVID spread, and it is being considered to be much earlier than when it hit the news. These things take time to take hold, I would argue that even if they closed the border immediately in China when they developed cases we would still have a global issue, that virus wasn't contained to China at all at that point
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboMedic View Post
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    Except at that point is was already too late. There still is investigation into what the actual time COVID spread, and it is being considered to be much earlier than when it hit the news. These things take time to take hold, I would argue that even if they closed the border immediately in China when they developed cases we would still have a global issue, that virus wasn't contained to China at all at that point
    I read some article (cant find it again, so could be total BS) that suggested it originated in September of 2019, amd the original super spreader event was some world military games held in Wuhan in October of 2019.. Athletes from all over the world and quotes saying that Wuhan was a ghost town and appeared to be in some sort of lockdown. (Which of course China said was to help with traffic for the games)

    One short article on it:
    https://www.insidethegames.biz/artic...lness-covid-19

    I had a nasty flu in early January for a day or so, so cerainly could have been it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Audi View Post
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    I had a nasty flu in early January for a day or so, so cerainly could have been it.
    A lot of people did. There was just a nasty bug going around, we had it too, but I had an antibody test done in July (2020) and had zero antibodies.
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    They're certainly big, but I don't know if they are the BEST I've tasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboMedic View Post
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    This is untrue. There is a reason we can develop vaccine yearly that is attempting to target the specific strain of the flu that afflicts us every year, and its because it originates in other continents and the dominant strain can be identified and then acted upon. Yes flu lives dormant locally, but the border closures definitely did have an effect on transmission of the dominant flu strain occurring where it starts first (typically)
    There was still enough of people traveling that we could import the flu... hence why variants have made it around the world.

    in the case of the flu i believe the other health measurers had a bigger impact.

    the flu shot at best is 30-40% effective it really depends on the year and how good the guess is ...

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    Sport and the other immune covid beasts, simple question…

    Would you rather die from the vaccine

    Or

    Die from covid and not have gotten vaccinated
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    Quote Originally Posted by gretz View Post
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    Sport and the other immune covid beasts, simple question…

    Would you rather die from the vaccine

    Or

    Die from covid and not have gotten vaccinated
    That's a easy answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretz View Post
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    Sport and the other immune covid beasts, simple question…

    Would you rather die from the vaccine

    Or

    Die from covid and not have gotten vaccinated
    This is the root of the problem and the failure of anti-vaxxers in terms of their reasoning.

    To decide on a vaccine you are basically multiplying the severity of an outcome by its probability, for two courses of action: vaccinate and non-vaccinate.

    They fuck up both of those numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gretz View Post
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    Sport and the other immune covid beasts, simple question…

    Would you rather die from the vaccine

    Or

    Die from covid and not have gotten vaccinated
    Extremely loaded question.

    I may never get covid and be perfectly fine and live a healthy life. But if I get the vaccine well nothing may happen or I could end up with some of the issues that come with it.

    Or I could get the vaccine and up with symptoms and still get covid

    Or I get covid and never end up in the hospital and be perfectly fine like many others

    Or get covid and die.

    There is no simple answer as everyone is different and we all have different lives.

    At the end of the day though there pretty much won't be a choice and everyone will be forced to get a vaccine.

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    I expect all antivaxers to follow this guy's lead:

    Anti-Vaccine Cartoonist Ben Garrison Says He's Got Covid-19, Won't Go to Hospital
    https://gizmodo.com/anti-vaccine-car...vid-1847749901

    If you don't trust medicine, there is absolutely no reason to go to hospital for help.

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    I fucking wish they'd stay out of the hospitals.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    There is no simple answer
    Yes there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Yes there is.
    For you maybe the answer is simple.. but not for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    Extremely loaded question.

    I may never get covid and be perfectly fine and live a healthy life. But if I get the vaccine well nothing may happen or I could end up with some of the issues that come with it.

    Or I could get the vaccine and up with symptoms and still get covid

    Or I get covid and never end up in the hospital and be perfectly fine like many others

    Or get covid and die.

    There is no simple answer as everyone is different and we all have different lives.

    At the end of the day though there pretty much won't be a choice and everyone will be forced to get a vaccine.
    Haven't medical professionals already confirmed that due to how Covid spreads that everyone will get Covid eventually.

    So technically your choice is get the vaccine and most likely fight off covid with minimal symptoms VS get covid and be significantly more likely to end up in the hospital.

    Seems pretty simple to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    He's free to make his likely wrong decision. I'm just appreciative that he quietly goes about his business instead of spouting off about "casinos on the moon" or whatever fucking gibberish TeamIgnoreList is engaging in today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    For you maybe the answer is simple.. but not for everyone.
    The answer is simple for everyone.

    Unless you suffer from an immune compromised condition that can’t get vaccinated. Get vaccinated.

    Young and healthy? Get vaccinated.

    Already had Covid and recovered? Get vaccinated.

    Not an anti-vaxxer but…get vaccinated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    For you maybe the answer is simple.. but not for everyone.
    False.

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