Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[Buster]

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Basically you should ignore the media at this point.

[ExtraSlow]

How long has it been since we discussed the ExtraSlow(tm) proposal to dramatically reduce testing? Probably don't test anyone who isn't hospitalized. Number of infections is no longer data that can be useful in making decisions, and in fact, I think it's actively unhelpful now that we are no longer in the pre-vaccine stage of this pandemic.

Maybe keep up with the wastewater testing for population-level data for use in future research studies.

I also think about 1 week later, we should remove every restriction on the entire population. Travel, workplace, public, let it all rip.

Hospitalizations are trending pretty nicely Canada-wide, much lower then wave 2 or 3. Wave 5, 6 and 7 should be lower still, for a variety of reasons.

[ThePenIsMightier]

I disagree^.
I think it's the reporting of test results portrayed as if it was a useful metric that you are against and I'm against that, too.
But if a person is sick, knowing whether it's CoVid or something else is still valuable information to help limit the spread.

It's not CoVid? Off to school Little Johnny, or maybe stay home and watch TV. Still go shopping. Still see others within reason. Etc.

CoVid+ ? Get locked in a box in the basement for at least a week, so no one else gets it.

[ExtraSlow]

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I disagree^.
I think it's the reporting of test results portrayed as if it was a useful metric that you are against and I'm against that, too.
But if a person is sick, knowing whether it's CoVid or something else is still valuable information to help limit the spread.

It's not CoVid? Off to school Little Johnny, or maybe stay home and watch TV. Still go shopping. Still see others within reason. Etc.

CoVid+ ? Get locked in a box in the basement for at least a week, so no one else gets it.

Yes we disagree.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Yes we disagree.

But why?
If you're sick tomorrow, and the grandparents are due for a holiday visit within the next week, wouldn't you find comfort In a negative test result to verify that if they still choose to come over, you're not exposing them and increasing the spread?

[ExtraSlow]

I don't think it's the government's role to help me "find comfort" in my grandparents choices. I think if you have vulnerable people in your life, you should encourage them to get vaccinated, for everything, and avoid them if either of you has symptoms, of anything.

All of my suggestions are based on the idea that governments, and society, need an "off-ramp" from this pandemic, and a move into full participation economically and socially for everyone.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I don't think it's the government's role to help me "find comfort" in my grandparents choices. I think if you have vulnerable people in your life, you should encourage them to get vaccinated, for everything, and avoid them if either of you has symptoms, of anything.

All of my suggestions are based on the idea that governments, and society, need an "off-ramp" from this pandemic, and a move into full participation economically and socially for everyone.

Replace the word "comfort" with "knowledge" and see if it's the same. There's a metaphorical book in your car that takes 15 min to read and at the end you gain knowledge about your personal situation that gives you the power to make more informed decisions.

Hiding or being treated like a leper because of sniffles is honestly one of the worst parts of the past 20 months, for me.
I wish the gov't didn't release the test results and I wish they had nothing to do with it, but it's more the media that's generating the hysteria that the govt acts upon rather than the gov't acting on their own data. (I think).

*Plus I think personal purchased testing is more readily available now and the gov't is deleted from that equation.

[Xtrema]

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I don't think it's the government's role to help me "find comfort" in my grandparents choices. I think if you have vulnerable people in your life, you should encourage them to get vaccinated, for everything, and avoid them if either of you has symptoms, of anything.

All of my suggestions are based on the idea that governments, and society, need an "off-ramp" from this pandemic, and a move into full participation economically and socially for everyone.

I believe AHS is announcing free anti-gen kits for Albertans today so people can self test before gathering.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8447793/a...ests-holidays/

[ExtraSlow]

Optional Self-testing doesn't bother me. Not sure I'd want to make use of it myself, but if someone wants it, go nuts.

My stance on the appropriate and effective government actions in response to this pandemic have changed significantly over time. But the nature pandemic itself has changed too, so I think that's reasonable. Now it's no surprise that there is no consensus on this, there never has been.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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Hiding or being treated like a leper because of sniffles is honestly one of the worst parts of the past 20 months, for me..

I haven't had a cold or flu in over 20 months now, thanks to people staying home when sick, and washing their hands like a decent human being. It's the best part of the last 20 months, and I will continue to treat you like a leper if you're out in public with sniffles.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I haven't had a cold or flu in over 20 months now, thanks to people staying home when sick, and washing their hands like a decent human being. It's the best part of the last 20 months, and I will continue to treat you like a leper if you're out in public with sniffles.

I guess no one knows anyone who has ever had allergies.

[Darkane]

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I haven't had a cold or flu in over 20 months now, thanks to people staying home when sick, and washing their hands like a decent human being. It's the best part of the last 20 months, and I will continue to treat you like a leper if you're out in public with sniffles.

Truth. I just got my first cold this weekend! It was exciting.

I went to get tested first time, penetrated my skull.

Fun fact (not sure if this changed recently) you’re LEGALLY required to isolate with any symptoms as an adult - even double vaccinated. The only way out is negative test.

So you can’t leave the house legally unless it straight to a test centre. Welcome to double vaccinated life. Hahahah.

Not joking. Can walk free after a negative test, but only if symptoms don’t worsen. If you develop a cough after a negative test, legal isolation again. Insane.

[ExtraSlow]

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Truth. I just got my first cold this weekend! It was exciting.

I went to get tested first time, penetrated my skull.

Fun fact (not sure if this changed recently) you’re LEGALLY required to isolate with any symptoms as an adult - even double vaccinated. The only way out is negative test.

So you can’t leave the house legally unless it straight to a test centre. Welcome to double vaccinated life. Hahahah.

Not joking. Can walk free after a negative test, but only if symptoms don’t worsen. If you develop a cough after a negative test, legal isolation again. Insane.

This is some of the reason to stop testing.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Truth. I just got my first cold this weekend! It was exciting.

I went to get tested first time, penetrated my skull.

Fun fact (not sure if this changed recently) you’re LEGALLY required to isolate with any symptoms as an adult - even double vaccinated. The only way out is negative test.

So you can’t leave the house legally unless it straight to a test centre. Welcome to double vaccinated life. Hahahah.

Not joking. Can walk free after a negative test, but only if symptoms don’t worsen. If you develop a cough after a negative test, legal isolation again. Insane.

This is not entirely true. You need a mildly complex algorithm of symptoms to require isolation. But, yes - it's surprising what ticks enough boxes.
Most single-symptom issues do not mandate isolation.

[killramos]

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I guess no one knows anyone who has ever had allergies.

Yup. I’m allergic to my cats.

Still doesn’t mean I have, or have ever had, Covid.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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Truth. I just got my first cold this weekend! It was exciting.

I went to get tested first time, penetrated my skull.

Fun fact (not sure if this changed recently) you’re LEGALLY required to isolate with any symptoms as an adult - even double vaccinated. The only way out is negative test.

So you can’t leave the house legally unless it straight to a test centre. Welcome to double vaccinated life. Hahahah.

Not joking. Can walk free after a negative test, but only if symptoms don’t worsen. If you develop a cough after a negative test, legal isolation again. Insane.

The last thing I will do at this point if I am feeling unwell is tell ANYONE, I've played the Government's 3 card Monty for nearly two years and personally I really DGAF anymore. I am fine if that makes me a terrible person, an intellectual inferior, just a straight up cunt who "doesn't care about everyone else" in the eyes of general society or all of the above.

[vengie]

Stop testing, get vaccinated, make common sense choices, live your life.

[ExtraSlow]

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Stop testing, get vaccinated, make common sense choices, live your life.

[max_boost]

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The last thing I will do at this point if I am feeling unwell is tell ANYONE, I've played the Government's 3 card Monty for nearly two years and personally I really DGAF anymore. I am fine if that makes me a terrible person, an intellectual inferior, just a straight up cunt who "doesn't care about everyone else" in the eyes of general society or all of the above.

Amen. Live your life.

[jutes]

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Stop testing, get vaccinated, make common sense choices, live your life.

Why do you hate old people and fatties? Don't forget our ICUs and overworked hospital staff....