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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Hey someone scratch up some statistics for me. Did COVID-19 do much to change the demographics of our country? Did a significant number of "extra" old fuckers die this year? Did this skew the country younger by any appreciable margin?

    My guess is no, but I'm short of sleep and I have just enough time to post the question not find the answer.
    I mean. I think even worst case death states for the most vulnerable segments was “only” 10% or so?

    I doubt that really moves the needle.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    I mean. I think even worst case death states for the most vulnerable segments was “only” 10% or so?

    I doubt that really moves the needle.
    20k/6.9M 65+ dead.

    0.2%

    50k has been thru hospitals. So if you are admitted it's really flip of a coin if you go into the ground afterwards.
    Last edited by Xtrema; 03-29-2021 at 09:57 AM.

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    so the great demographic reset we need wasn't provided. Gotcha.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    so the great demographic reset we need wasn't provided. Gotcha.
    No.

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...-rates-rcna505

    “The government was overoptimistic, and there was a mishandling of information around the good initial rollout of vaccine,” Cortés said. “It seems people got the impression everything is fine now, but there needs to be a clear message that the vaccines are just one part of combatting the pandemic. It does not mean that we can forget the basics like social distancing and wearing masks.
    Chile is one of the best vaccinated countries. Either Sinovac is useless against P1/P2 or these new variants are moving the goal post.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...h=609fd7c37b3e

    Some experts have blamed a new coronavirus variant that’s torn through Brazil in recent months and helped fuel a brutal Covid-19 resurgence: The variant is more contagious, and some research indicates it can reinfect people who got sick from a previous form of the virus, meaning both younger and older Brazilians are now more vulnerable.

    P1/P2/P# is the one to watch and 2021 is looking more like repeat of 2020 by the day.
    Last edited by Xtrema; 03-29-2021 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...-rates-rcna505



    Chile is one of the best vaccinated countries. Either Sinovac is useless against P1/P2 or these new variants are moving the goal post.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...h=609fd7c37b3e




    P1/P2/P# is the one to watch.
    So the vaccine isn't effective at stopping spread among people who have not yet been vaccinated. I'm shocked.

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    Hmm more fresh controversy around the AZ:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ast...r-55-1.5968128

    PEI suspended as of this morning... let’s see what hinshaw says later today for Alberta. Would be a really shitty deal to suspend this considering we are supposed to get the 1.5M doses from the US this week

    Edit: wrong thread and I see it was already mentioned there
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    I'm kind of confused, my understanding was the EU issues with AZ all seemed to be from doses manufactured in the one location. The UK and India haven't reported the same blood clot issues so I thought it might be specific to a batch or production facility. But these US doses are completely different manufacturing facility so don't get why these are affected.

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    I wonder if this is all for optics. Things like the birth control pill are also known to cause blood clots in a small percentage of younger women, so if an "abundance of caution" was the goal, that wouldn't be available either. Seems like theater for the public to me if only 1 / 100,000 might have a complication.

    I guess if they are still giving them to the over 55's the shipment isn't wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    So the vaccine isn't effective at stopping spread among people who have not yet been vaccinated. I'm shocked.
    All I know is, we are nowhere to 44% and we already got the "Mission Accomplished" banner up or at least everyone acts like it.

    The P variant will change the game and all the AZ back and forth isn't helping the matters.

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    I guess if they are still giving them to the over 55's the shipment isn't wasted.
    The fact that John Tory is begging people to come out isn't a good sign. The damage is done.

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    2 weeks to bend the curve guys.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
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    I guess if they are still giving them to the over 55's the shipment isn't wasted.
    Have to get people to actually take the vaccine for that to happen. After everything that has gone on with AZ, how likely do you think people are going to be to sign up to take a vaccine that may or may not be safe for them?

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    The fact that John Tory is begging people to come out isn't a good sign. The damage is done.
    That was even before this latest announcement. Nothing will build confidence like NACI saying that it's not safe enough to use in the under 55 group, but don't worry about the over 55 group, even though we said that stuff about not using it for over 65.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FraserB View Post
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    Have to get people to actually take the vaccine for that to happen. After everything that has gone on with AZ, how likely do you think people are going to be to sign up to take a vaccine that may or may not be safe for them?
    Probably the same amount as before given that the province announced you can get an honor-system Pfizer with no consequence for lying. At this point it's just a matter of if you want ~75% or ~95% efficacy, easy choice for most people I imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    2 years to bend the curve guys.
    ftfy

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    Im just waiting for the C19 clusterfuck that is Texas to manifest - going on week 3 now since 'game over' started.

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    Haven't been paying close attention to other jurisdictions. Apparently Ontario is fucked? Hospitalizations and ICU occupancy extremely high.
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    . "There is no such thing as winning this race with just vaccinations. That's impossible."
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ario-1.5968720
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Seems like Alberta is not yet fucked? Are we going to be fucked? Fuck.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Seems like Alberta is not yet fucked? Are we going to be fucked? Fuck.
    Just ask the government. They are so knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Seems like Alberta is not yet fucked? Are we going to be fucked? Fuck.
    Oh we're fucked alright. Covid is only 1" of the cock though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Seems like Alberta is not yet fucked? Are we going to be fucked? Fuck.
    The promise of vaccines being the second coming of christ in this instance, will manifest as much as the churchs' 2000 year promise of the second coming of christ.

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