Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[Darkane]

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If we're closed till September, what world?

I actually think we’ll be at a new normal pretty quick.

Not like before, and we’ll have a recession in front of us, but with treatments and summer we’ll see much lower numbers.

I’m still curious about California. Herd immunity, heat/humidity? Both?

NY will be peaking right away and hopefully a hot, muggy spring comes roaring in.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Why can't this fucking snow catch Corona Virus, get a fever and melt and then go fucking die??!

[ZenOps]

Spring incoming. Been scouring Amazon for clearance items. Obviously some warehouses are clearing out overstock of non-essential goods.

[The_Penguin]

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Trigger warning, this is quite depressing :
A day in the life of a NYC Paramedic during Covid19.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52196815

Wow. Unreal.

[ExtraSlow]

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Wow. Unreal.

Yeah, the implication is that there's hundreds of covid deaths not being reported as such. Which throws out all the statistics.

I guess that's a good place to ask these two related questions.
1) which covid statistics are most MEANINGFUL?
2) Which covid statistics are most ACCURATE?

I've been following deaths/million, but maybe something else is better.

[Buster]

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Yeah, the implication is that there's hundreds of covid deaths not being reported as such. Which throws out all the statistics.

I guess that's a good place to ask these two related questions.
1) which covid statistics are most MEANINGFUL?
2) Which covid statistics are most ACCURATE?

I've been following deaths/million, but maybe something else is better.

In real time, right now? Probably not much.

Hospitalization rates is probably the best we have until serological testing comes along.

[suntan]

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I had 2 bout of flu like sickness in Jan and Feb. I also won't mind getting tested if serology test is available. But for now I think Health Canada is toeing the WHO line and won't approve it

But 91 patients in Korea that were cleared are reinfected again. Something very similar to what China has reported

Now the problem did they use Chinese test kits which is only 30% accurate so it was all lies to start with?

And once we know our health care system is safe from being overwhelmed and lock down is over, doesn't sound like we can resume to life before COVID19 or more people will die. Especially senior homes.

Same virologist also took a look at that Korean one, it's total BS.

These papers are all at preprint stage, and Asian ones are notorious for being of very poor quality.

The testing kits are very hard to use properly. You have to shove the swab way, way, way, way up the nasal cavity. Most nurses do not do it properly as it causes great discomfort in most people. As a result there are going to be a lot of false negatives. The only good thing is that a positive is a guaranteed positive.

Sweden's falling apart, there's dead bodies everywhere, their hospitals are overrun and the dead are rising.

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I actually think we’ll be at a new normal pretty quick.

Not like before, and we’ll have a recession in front of us, but with treatments and summer we’ll see much lower numbers.

I’m still curious about California. Herd immunity, heat/humidity? Both?

NY will be peaking right away and hopefully a hot, muggy spring comes roaring in.

I always know the true Albertans when they think spring comes in May.

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Yeah, the implication is that there's hundreds of covid deaths not being reported as such. Which throws out all the statistics.

I guess that's a good place to ask these two related questions.
1) which covid statistics are most MEANINGFUL?
2) Which covid statistics are most ACCURATE?

I've been following deaths/million, but maybe something else is better.

CDC has said anybody can be coded as a COVID-19 death now.

Federal funding is tied to COVID-19 counts, BTW.

[ZenOps]

Nordic values, the Ättestupa. Spoilers from Norsemen:

[89coupe]

Irony at its best.

https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/...370802689?s=21

[ExtraSlow]

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CDC has said anybody can be coded as a COVID-19 death now.
Federal funding is tied to COVID-19 counts, BTW.

So either that doesn't answer my questions, or I just don't understand.

[suntan]

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So either that doesn't answer my questions, or I just don't understand.

In other words, once that EMS guy got back to the hospital, he was told by his hospital admin to make sure that he code the deaths as COVID-19.

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Here's a chart from Colorado. What are people's interpretation of the data?

[Buster]

The older you are, the more likely you are to go into hospital and/or die?

Trick question?

[suntan]

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The older you are, the more likely you are to go into hospital and/or die?

Trick question?

Nah, it shows that you have a greater than zero percent chance of dying from this disease and therefore we should be in lockdown forever.

[suntan]

Some fun info.

This guy's Twitter is very good: https://twitter.com/trvrb

A few European countries are lifting some restrictions. Schools are re-opening.

Sweden's entire population is now dead.

[ExtraSlow]

Am I missing something about Sweden, doesn't seem that bad there.

[flipstah]

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Some fun info.

This guy's Twitter is very good: https://twitter.com/trvrb

A few European countries are lifting some restrictions. Schools are re-opening.

Sweden's entire population is now dead.

They also did lockdowns way earlier than us like Austria. So if you put that timeline against us... we’ll have easing of lockdown by Juneish?

[The_Rural_Juror]

One of my takeaways from the article is the PTSD.

I'm 16 years in therapy, I'm a practising Buddhist and I meditate, but even I'm having trouble disconnecting now. The emotional drain that happens on days like this stays with you because you know you're going to have to go to work tomorrow for another 16 hours and you're going to get it again.

Medics survive a career in this because we always have hope that OK, we didn't save this one but the next one we will save. We are pretty good at saving people's lives. But with this virus the odds are against us. Hope fades fighting it. We are fighting an invisible enemy that is taking out our co-workers - and right now, hope is fleeting.

This is happening all over the city.

[Buster]

We're not significantly easing any lockdowns until we have good contract tracing tech and a serology test widely available.

[ExtraSlow]

First responders will fornsirenhave high rates of PTSD from this. The general population will too. This is a traumatic event.

[suntan]

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Am I missing something about Sweden, doesn't seem that bad there.

Sweden had barely any sort of lockdown, they seem to be faring well. We'll see what their numbers are tomorrow, it's clear no one filed reports over the holidays.

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We're not significantly easing any lockdowns until we have good contract tracing tech and a serology test widely available.

Has anyone told Quebec that?