Wanna know what’s stranger? ICU and Emergency healthcare workers are getting it before the healthcare workers on the covid wards.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Wanna know what’s stranger? ICU and Emergency healthcare workers are getting it before the healthcare workers on the covid wards.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I feel bad for my paramedic buddy who isn’t anywhere on the list either, he has a snotty end of the stick because he goes into calls with no clue about COVID infection and very limited ability to take precautions. He’s also transported several COVID positive patients without AHS even telling him, kind of fucked up.
But end of the day I’m not pretending to pick and choose who gets it, I suppose if I was I’d give myself a shot first
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Yep. There are lots of important people who need it and are getting it and overthinking it is wrong.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But realize that there are workers who are 2 and 3 levels above direct patient care getting vaccinated and it's at the expense of other workers who are directly giving patient care, as well as those who are poking their coworkers with the vaccine.
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This, I'm ok with... They are so bubble wrapped in PPE and their procedures are so rigid that I think it's ok to not have them at the very front of the line.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
"Ok" is the wrong word... "Tolerable based on the circumstances" is more what I mean.
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In the end, I expected the roll-out to be mismanaged, but I hope that at the very least, the dosages that arrive in the province get used in a timely fashion on someone. The end goal of a big percentage of the population having access to the vaccine will probably be achieved, despite these issues.
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Thats the point of PPE and proper protocols though.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
With the vaccination nurses you have a list of who they were exposed to via appointments, and generally appointments are all <5 minutes so limited time exposure, you have masks on both sides by people that wear masks for a living, and they wear gloves and follow procedures for cleaning / swapping out gloves between patients. If a nurse develops symptoms then the person giving out the vaccines would have to isolate but this is the same as if the person giving out the vaccines was also vaccinated. We still don't have data if they can be a carrier at this time.
Compare that to nurses working with general public patients, who lie about symptoms, incorrectly use masks, argue against this all being a stupid hoax, are sick or maybe coughing with something else, and who knows what kind of life they live.
They both have higher exposure but I still view the ones interacting with the general public has the higher risk because patients lie and could be active carriers and lie about symptoms whereas nurses are likely more diligent about notifying if they have symptoms since they get paid time off anyways.
All good points. Particularly the <5min exposure. I like this.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
But their PPE is nowhere near the level of those working at the CoVid testing centers, and those are also very limited exposures... More playing Devil's Advocate with that point.
That makes sense though, as it's the ICU staff that are most crucial. It's those departments that we are protecting with all the shutdowns.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I think I should get vaccinated first because of the people not wearing masks in +15s where I get my lunch.
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They likely have isolation protocols in place. So, if a frontline worker is presenting symptoms or is a confirmed case, they would have to wait until they're over it, since they can't work anyway. While there is always some risk to the nurses giving the shots, it should be relatively minimal risk as compared with those who are actually working with COVID+ patients. They would also be following proper PPE and sanitizing protocols as they are giving shots, so their chance of contracting it while giving shots is most likely less than just being out in public.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Based on this tracker, it looks like they have caught up and back on a good trajectory in the new year. Yesterday they vaccinated 38,310 across Canada (0.1% of population) and sitting at 45% of supply used. At this rate they will catch up to supply pretty quick.
https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html
No love for vaccinating the people working at the testing facility? They literally come in contact with people who have sars-cov 2 every day.
No love for putting much effort into splitting health care workers into different buckets. I literally don't care who gets it first as long as it's getting used somewhere.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I guess the argument being that if the testing center has all their employees get sick, it doesn’t really affect treatment capacity like if all the ICU and car home staff get sick.
We like having data but ultimately testing people is entirely optional.
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I still think they are holding 2nd dose in storage in case of supply issues. Hence I doubt you will ever see we using more than 50% delivered.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They are already pondering mixing vaccines as UK approved it.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...sure-1.5252873
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I think if you have reasonable line of sight to a delivery it makes sense to go a fair bit above 50%.
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There’s no end in sight is thereThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Caught between a rock and hard place.
Guess they're superspreaders in more ways than one.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Well below where it needs to be. If the country wants to hit 6 million by the end of March, the numbers need to nearly doubleThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Good point. I didn't do the math until now but looks like they need to be at around 71,000 shots per day to hit 6M people in 81 day. The 2nd dose also complicates that so at some point they need to be at 140,000 per day. Pretty massive undertaking to ramp up to that but hopefully they figure it out.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote