Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[pheoxs]

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the most confusing thing to me is when travel restrictions could have actually worked, they were poo-pooed as racist or not effective by the government and WHO, and then once Covid was in literally every single country around the world and was endemic, that's when they closed the borders. How the heck does that make any sense. OMG we have so much covid here, lets close the border so we dont get more covid on top of covid. (yes I understand there are regional variants but it was still backwards AF)

At the time the China border was closed, Italy also had a significant outbreak of cases and their medical system was collapsing under pressure. Yet the US didn't close the borders to Italy or do anything to stop the flow from there. It was viewed as Racist because literally the only thing the US did was towards China and nowhere else early on.

[Buster]

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I would argue that the lack of flu had more to do with travel restrictions and border closings than masking and social distancing. Shelter in place would obviously have an effect but I don't think that wearing a cloth mask and standing 6 feet apart contributed to the reduction in the flu. If the flu can't make it into Canada then you can't get the subsequent community spread. Just like how we wouldn't have any Covid if they legit did a 100% border close on China before it escaped Wuhan

Closing the borders was always going to be pointless

[littledan]

Unless they closed china's borders right when the WIV outbreak started!

I guess thats what you get when a chimeric virus designed to infect humans gets released. Cant put that shit back in the bottle.

[SportEL]

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At the time the China border was closed, Italy also had a significant outbreak of cases and their medical system was collapsing under pressure. Yet the US didn't close the borders to Italy or do anything to stop the flow from there. It was viewed as Racist because literally the only thing the US did was towards China and nowhere else early on.

Incorrect. He did suspend travel from Europe

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51846923

[zechs]

So, new covid cases and deaths have been declining all week.

Did the new "lockdown" actually do anything, or were we essentially nearing the peak when the emergency message went out 1.5 weeks ago? New cases per day peaked on the 17th, deaths peaked on the 21st (this needs to be taken with a grain of salt because at least with the google results which take data from allworld and wikipedia, there is always a drop in reporting on weekends and a spike on Monday/Tuesday).

We've been in a downward trend the entire time, even though real "restrictions" did not kick in until Monday and I've seen a lot of businesses not following the new rules.

I'm not making an argument for or against, regardless of my opinion on the hospital situation, I do recognize resources were being stretched thin (I'll leave arguing about the why for another time).

[littledan]

I noticed that case counts seem to stabilize in the 1400-1600 range for quite a number of days and had we been exponential they should have gone much higher into the 2 and 3k per day so I was guessing we were peaking at that point. Would make sense since we have a large segment of the pop vaxed. But with school back in session it will be interesting if it will be a double peak wave as more opportunuity for transmission occurs.

(I don't believe hinshaw when she says that outbreaks in schools aren't a driver of community spread)

[ExtraSlow]

Intuitively you'd think there'd be a lot of spread from school, but doesn't seem to be a big issue. I have no theories about how or why that is the case.

My kids were both in yellow bus all of last year and I always expected them to get teh covidz but they didn't. Anecdote is not data, but surprises me anyway.

[Buster]

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Intuitively you'd think there'd be a lot of spread from school, but doesn't seem to be a big issue. I have no theories about how or why that is the case.

My kids were both in yellow bus all of last year and I always expected them to get teh covidz but they didn't. Anecdote is not data, but surprises me anyway.

no one knows why this is.

[ExtraSlow]

They'll figure that out in ten years. For now, I accept and appreciate it.

[pheoxs]

As of Friday: Active cases per 100k (chg 1-day) (chg 7-day)

Calgary 300.8 (-7.0) (-21.4)

Edmonton 383.5 (-6.2) (-0.4)

North 738.6 (-7.8) (+71.1)

Central 771.0 (+25.9) (+132.0)

South 697.7 (-7.1) (+76.7)

Basically Calgary has been steadying out for the past 1-2 weeks and is now declining slowly. Edmonton also just shifting to a slightly decline over the past week. Meanwhile rural areas continue to climb quickly. Today was the first day North/South had negative but they are still up significantly over the past week so could be a trend but could also just be one day. Per capita they are over double the major cities.

Masks went back into effect a few weeks ago, almost as if they work. Additionally Calgary having the highest vaccination rate followed by Edmonton also seems to be working. But I'll wait for our resident covidiots to argue how all of this is fake.

[ExtraSlow]

Rural areas, gonna keep getting hammered. It's unfortunate that humans are poor at evaluating risks of this type. The intuitive is what's going to kill these folks.

[89coupe]

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Intuitively you'd think there'd be a lot of spread from school, but doesn't seem to be a big issue. I have no theories about how or why that is the case.

My kids were both in yellow bus all of last year and I always expected them to get teh covidz but they didn't. Anecdote is not data, but surprises me anyway.

Cause kids follow rules.

They keep their masks on, they wash their hands, they follow protocol.

At least the kids at the school my son goes to.

[ExtraSlow]

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Cause kids follow rules.

They keep their masks on, they wash their hands, they follow protocol.

At least the kids at the school my son goes to.

That doesn't match the reports from my kids schools, but I haven't seen firsthand.

[killramos]

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Cause kids follow rules.

They keep their masks on, they wash their hands, they follow protocol.

At least the kids at the school my son goes to.

I bet that’s what you kids tell you… hahaha

[ExtraSlow]

It's called respect.

[ZenOps]

Weather still holding. Maybe its for the best we have a peak before January hits. As long as it does not get to triage.

[bjstare]

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I bet that’s what you kids tell you… hahaha

His kids would never lie. Thats a thing that happens with pop drinking youths.

[kertejud2]

Is that specifically diet pop drinking youths or just pop drinking youths in general?

[finboy]

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Cause kids follow rules.

They keep their masks on, they wash their hands, they follow protocol.

At least the kids at the school my son goes to.

CDC says this is misinformation

These findings cast doubt on the impact of many of the most common mitigation measures in American schools. Distancing, hybrid models, classroom barriers, HEPA filters, and, most notably, requiring student masking were each found to not have a statistically significant benefit. In other words, these measures could not be said to be effective.

In the realm of science and public-health policy outside the U.S., the implications of these particular findings are not exactly controversial. Many of America’s peer nations around the world — including the U.K., Ireland, all of Scandinavia, France, the Netherlands, Switzerland, and Italy — have exempted kids, with varying age cutoffs, from wearing masks in classrooms. Conspicuously, there’s no evidence of more outbreaks in schools in those countries relative to schools in the U.S., where the solid majority of kids wore masks for an entire academic year and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. These countries, along with the World Health Organization, whose child-masking guidance differs substantially from the CDC’s recommendations, have explicitly recognized that the decision to mask students carries with it potential academic and social harms for children and may lack a clear benefit.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nymag.co...uncertain.html

[89coupe]

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CDC says this is misinformation



https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nymag.co...uncertain.html

Reads like bullshit.

Kids for the most part follow rules and listen.

Even the kids with stupid parents have a chance.

They follow by example, while at school.