Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[The_Rural_Juror]

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No reason that false positives should be equivalent to false negatives...and the presence of either of them leads you to different conclusions on the utility of the tests depending on the prevalence in the population.

That's stathtistics yo.

[revelations]

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T. Simply saying we're getting more cases because we are testing more is not valid reasoning. We are testing more because more people are getting sick.

Holy christ - the graph in front of your face directly contradicts you. Is this some kind of black magic?

Since end of May, The infection rate has been around ~1% of tested cases in AB. There has been NO mass increase in the percentage positives since early April.

If we test 100,000 people, 1000 will be sick with C19, if we test 1,000,000 people, 10000 will be sick with C19.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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black magic?

Triggered.

[duaner]

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No reason that false positives should be equivalent to false negatives...and the presence of either of them leads you to different conclusions on the utility of the tests depending on the prevalence in the population.

Despite my wording, I was certainly not trying to say that they should be equivalent. In fact, everything I have read points to false negatives being higher. My only point was to imply that one cannot argue for false positives while ignoring false negatives; we should just take the number of positives at face value.

[Buster]

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Despite my wording, I was certainly not trying to say that they should be equivalent. In fact, everything I have read points to false negatives being higher. My only point was to imply that one cannot argue for false positives while ignoring false negatives; we should just take the number of positives at face value.

I see what you mean. But what is meant by a false positive or false negative? Do you mean presence of viral RNA? Or do you mean active infection? Or do you mean someone who is infectious?

[pheoxs]

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Holy christ - the graph in front of your face directly contradicts you. Is this some kind of black magic?

Since end of May, The infection rate has been around ~1% of tested cases in AB. There has been NO mass increase in the percentage positives since early April.

If we test 100,000 people, 1000 will be sick with C19, if we test 1,000,000 people, 10000 will be sick with C19.

Sigh. I can see the chart and I can see the rate increasing... Let's use Edmonton since they are starting to have a rough outbreak so its easier to see.



You can see May was ~0.5% positivity rate, June/July was close to 1%, end of August through September was 1.5% and october so far has been above 2%.

But yes, please tell me how the rate hasn't changed and its black magic.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Wait! Is Phexos trying to say that 2 > 0.5???
I'm looking for the Black Magic button on my calculator or abacus.

[revelations]

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Sigh. I can see the chart and I can see the rate increasing... Let's use Edmonton since they are starting to have a rough outbreak so its easier to see.



You can see May was ~0.5% positivity rate, June/July was close to 1%, end of August through September was 1.5% and october so far has been above 2%.

But yes, please tell me how the rate hasn't changed and its black magic.

Yep - good job of moving the goal posts. I was not talking about edmonton or calgary - the reference to AB - as you obviously saw it, didnt work for you.

I can also find a smaller sample size that shows the C19 % rate decreasing in a different of the province, but thats not the point and Im not going to move the posts.

[Toilet_X]

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I've been avoiding covid and opiates, still alive. Would recommend avoiding both.

I really gave that an honest go. Tripped over my shoelaces and landed ass first on a syringe full of black tar heroin. Got me right through the walls of my colon. Now im hooked for life. You never know where life is gonna take ya.

[max_boost]

Here we go again!

Today’s coronavirus news: Close to 10 per cent of Toronto’s cases occurred in last eight days; Ontario bans indoor restaurant dining, closes gyms, theatres for 28 days, after record high of 939 cases

[pheoxs]

AB did 25k tests in the last day, not too shabby

[ThePenIsMightier]

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AB did 25k tests in the last day, not too shabby

Pffttt! Sounds like a recipe for 270 false positives

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Pffttt! Sounds like a recipe for 270 false positives

That's 269 too many!

[ExtraSlow]

I don't think the false positives is a big deal. I think more relevant is the number of people what are true positives who have mild symptoms. Some people will use that as proof of how overblown the situation is. Others will use it as proof of the danger. I can't decide which I am.

[max_boost]

Trump has recovered.

The chosen one is back.

[revelations]

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I don't think the false positives is a big deal. I think more relevant is the number of people what are true positives who have mild symptoms. Some people will use that as proof of how overblown the situation is. Others will use it as proof of the danger. I can't decide which I am.

I agree that its not a binary situation either - on the positive reults side there are a) asymptomatic cases, b) ones who are sick but functional (eg. flu like), c) and then ones who are hospitalized.

[Sentry]

I tested positive and my symptoms weren't even flu like. No fever, no cough, no sore throat, no sneezing, no runny nose, no breathing problems. Just a stuffy head and lost my sense of smell. Can breathe clearly through my nose but can't smell a thing, not even gasoline from a jerry can. It's bizarre.

[Kloubek]

Well crap. Glad you came out of it seemingly unscathed.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Well crap. Glad you came out of it seemingly unscathed.

Werd.

[Darkane]

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I tested positive and my symptoms weren't even flu like. No fever, no cough, no sore throat, no sneezing, no runny nose, no breathing problems. Just a stuffy head and lost my sense of smell. Can breathe clearly through my nose but can't smell a thing, not even gasoline from a jerry can. It's bizarre.

All the best in recovery.

How long has it been? I’m interested in real life recoveries and continuing symptoms.