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    Quote Originally Posted by duaner View Post
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    I'm no expert, but I suspect there is a fairly strong correlation between the number of raw cases and the number of severe outcomes/deaths.
    There is definitely NOT any kind of direct, linear relationship in AB with these. Take a look at the stats.

    Next we should look at shutting down the province for those with colds and flus, because raw CASE numbers are all that matters?

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    Accurate statement from Dougie.Name:  Screenshot_20210406-195602.jpg
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    So that says 22% immune is the next stage to ease things if forward metrics look good.

    154k cases in Alberta + 611k people with 1st dose = 17.8% of people with immunity (minus however many overlaps there are between the two groups). At 0.6% per day that would be 7 days from now we would hit the first milestone...? So would that mean we go to some kind of old stage 2 again?

    The 'new' stage 1 with higher gatherings allowed sounds like our 'old' stage 3? AB is doing a shit job of keeping any sense of consistency in their messaging.

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    Ontario has 1.4 million doses on hand now they need to administer and large shipments coming soon ... I'm curious how long they try to blame the feds when from this point forward it'll likely be the provinces not keeping up.

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    Brazil sounds like a fucking nightmare

    https://globalnews.ca/news/7736765/c...riants-us/amp/

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    Provinces can only plan as well as the schedules they have been given by the feds, schedules the feds have missed essentially every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    The raw cases numbers are completely meaningless. The only metric we should be concerned about are severe outcomes/deaths ie. those in hospitals. Both are at nil or near zero levels.

    We have some 12,000 beds unoccupied in this province and of the 25,000 occupied beds, <300 have something to do with C19.

    Deaths 1-2 per day.
    But the number of ICU beds is considerably lower. Changing standard care beds to ICU requires a lot more than a change in designation, as they all need specialized equipment and nurses who are trained in critical care. I think that's the part of the messaging that is missing.

    The interesting thing has been the discourse of small businesses and other affected organizations that seem to have taken up the stance that, as a private business, they are not subject to the rules and laws that are a condition of their operation. They've essentially taken a stance that is akin to Freeman on the Land (or other pseudo-law positions) and are effectively daring the government to do something about it. It's an interesting game of chicken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sexualbanana View Post
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    But the number of ICU beds is considerably lower. Changing standard care beds to ICU requires a lot more than a change in designation, as they all need specialized equipment and nurses who are trained in critical care. I think that's the part of the messaging that is missing.
    There are like 40 people in ICU for C19 right now, with something like 3000 ICU beds. Again, the government violating their own set conditions is a great indication of how far they think they can take the BS.

    "Moving alberta forward" - right into the great reset conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Accurate statement from Dougie.
    Ontario is sitting on a million and a half doses when Ford said this. They need to double pokes tomorrow and stay there for the rest of the month just to keep up with deliveries

    In February Canada was expecting 6M vaccines delivered by the end of March. It's April 6 and over 10M have been delivered. If provinces are having a problem with administering doses, what the hell were they preparing for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    There are like 40 people in ICU for C19 right now, with something like 3000 ICU beds. Again, the government violating their own set conditions is a great indication of how far they think they can take the BS.

    "Moving alberta forward" - right into the great reset conspiracy.
    I'm not sure if 3000 is the correct figure. That seems incredibly high for day-to-day critical care availability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duaner View Post
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    I'm no expert, but I suspect there is a fairly strong correlation between the number of raw cases and the number of severe outcomes/deaths.
    There was, but it's diverging now.

    Data pulled on Monday. Total number of vaccines or 7 day rolling cases on left axis, 7 day rolling death count, age of death, age of cases on right axis.

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    I see infection rates possibly getting really bad with the new variants - though the summer does seem to slow things down. And at least our most vulnerable are largely protected now - assuming it's long lasting and the 95% effectiveness claim is true.

    Those graphs are interesting. Had no idea deaths had fallen so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    Ontario is sitting on a million and a half doses when Ford said this. They need to double pokes tomorrow and stay there for the rest of the month just to keep up with deliveries

    In February Canada was expecting 6M vaccines delivered by the end of March. It's April 6 and over 10M have been delivered. If provinces are having a problem with administering doses, what the hell were they preparing for?
    Would you supportb going straight to phase 3 and just opening it up?

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    Second chart

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzwasp View Post
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    Did anyone notice they have changed the goal posts in terms from hospitalizations to vaccination level.
    P1 and B117 moved the goal post for us. And we are about a week or so behind Ontario and their ICU is f'd again. What a huge difference a month behind in vaccination makes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Would you supportb going straight to phase 3 and just opening it up?
    Originally I wasn't, but with the variants changing the risk factors I don't think it would really matter anymore. I don't have a problem with the setup currently either provided they get 30,000+ doses a day going they need to ASAP.

    Getting jabs into the 16-18 year olds before they leave school would make logistical sense as well regardless of the Phase.

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    We should just close up shop for another 6 months while they prep the vitamin P vaccine boosters.

    Just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abeo View Post
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    My interpretation of the data is:
    Deaths are way down, and have decoupled from case numbers (time will tell if this is true)
    Average age of people getting covid is trending down, but not as severe as you would think from listening from the press
    Average death age is still way up there. But the number of people dying towards the end of the chart is getting to be a smaller sample size, so that'll cause a larger variance
    We did not test enough in the first wave to know how many people had it. The death rate is a larger indicator than test rate for the first wave.

    My opinion is:
    The press can get fucked. Twisting words of "we don't know" into "could be more deadly for young people" and "can possibly reinfect" is just fear mongering.

    Compare AB ICU trend vs Ontario ICU trend. And you will understand why health care pro are scared.

    We are 2 weeks away from repeating shit show in Dec.

    Of course, we put on the brakes again, and we won't hit those numbers and everyone will call it fake news.


    And people keep dragging P1 in which in itself keep landing healthy people in ICU.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-...gly-young.html
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    P1 variant... is there a 918 variant? I want that one

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