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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDL View Post
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    Also, not all acute care beds are ICU beds. ICU beds is a subset of acute care beds.
    Yes, acute care usually denotes monitoring and telemetry capability

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    Illuminate me on the hours of time spent on a covid patient once they are in the ICU. Would love clarification, nurses just stand over the people who can't breathe once they've been intubated and given the medicines that may help?
    Well, considering I was a flight medic for 13 years, managing ICU patients was my wheelhouse. My significant other is also an ICU RRT. So yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. Feel free to also look up ECMO, the sickest of the sick use this, but hey its only one person watching machines go beep boop right? 1:1 minimum care is labour intensive, its often 2:1, sometimes greater. Are there times where the management is low? And I'll use low as a very loose term, these are complex patients with many many moving parts in the balance that constantly need attention and monitoring. Sure there is, but people in ICU on ventilators can do nothing for themselves, and you don't just leave them there until they get better. There's adjustments that have to be made all the time to up to 10 infusions, if they run out, if they fault, they all run different and they're all balancing, there's feed tubes and feed schedules, there's hygiene and waste (yup, these people still pee and poop, just through tubes), there's positioning and movement to prevent clotting and bedsores, there's proning (again, very labour intensive flipping patients connected to countless wires, tubes, and devices), serial blood to be drawn for labs, changing orders, chest physio, ongoing radiology, changing patient condition better or worse. You act like its like your cellphone at the end of the day, you just plug in and walk away and then after a set amount of time its good to go. Vent dependant ICU care is very labour intensive.

    EDIT: At this point I have no reason to think you're being anything other than obstinate
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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboMedic View Post
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    Illuminate me on the hours of time spent on a covid patient once they are in the ICU. Would love clarification, nurses just stand over the people who can't breathe once they've been intubated and given the medicines that may help?
    Well, considering I was a flight medic for 13 years, managing ICU patients was my wheelhouse. My significant other is also an ICU RRT. So yes, you have no idea what you're talking about.
    Classic Alberta/rednecking and the burden of proof. Zechs is the type of person who "does their research" online but only looks for things that fits his/her narrative. If you told him the sky is blue, he would ask for proof and use "research" from scientists that fit his narrative. It's amazing how stupid and ignorant some people are when they talk about covid, vaccines and government restrictions. Ya it's only FB, but behind the posts are real people (I hope) that walk among us who think this is all a lie. Maybe a division of society of vaccinated and unvaccinated is what we need for the short term.

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    He’s “just asking questions”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    I heard most kids under 12 were unvaccinated so fuck em, amirite?
    Not sure if this makes you feel better or not.

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    lol @ you guys responding to zechs

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtsniffer View Post
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    Not sure if this makes you feel better or not.
    I have a lot of feelings, mostly bad. Need a hug I think.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    lol @ you guys responding to zechs
    We got alt's responding to their own alt's up in hurr!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    We got alt's responding to their own alt's up in hurr!
    I'm too lazy for an alt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    I'm too lazy for an alt.
    No, not you. zEcHs

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    Whoa.. 2020 cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboMedic View Post
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    Yes, acute care usually denotes monitoring and telemetry capability

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    Well, considering I was a flight medic for 13 years, managing ICU patients was my wheelhouse. My significant other is also an ICU RRT. So yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. Feel free to also look up ECMO, the sickest of the sick use this, but hey its only one person watching machines go beep boop right? 1:1 minimum care is labour intensive, its often 2:1, sometimes greater. Are there times where the management is low? And I'll use low as a very loose term, these are complex patients with many many moving parts in the balance that constantly need attention and monitoring. Sure there is, but people in ICU on ventilators can do nothing for themselves, and you don't just leave them there until they get better. There's adjustments that have to be made all the time to up to 10 infusions, if they run out, if they fault, they all run different and they're all balancing, there's feed tubes and feed schedules, there's hygiene and waste (yup, these people still pee and poop, just through tubes), there's positioning and movement to prevent clotting and bedsores, there's proning (again, very labour intensive flipping patients connected to countless wires, tubes, and devices), serial blood to be drawn for labs, changing orders, chest physio, ongoing radiology, changing patient condition better or worse. You act like its like your cellphone at the end of the day, you just plug in and walk away and then after a set amount of time its good to go. Vent dependant ICU care is very labour intensive.

    EDIT: At this point I have no reason to think you're being anything other than obstinate
    ^^I love this man. Awesome mic drop.

    Zechs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TurboMedic View Post
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    Yes, acute care usually denotes monitoring and telemetry capability

    Well, considering I was a flight medic for 13 years, managing ICU patients was my wheelhouse. My significant other is also an ICU RRT. So yes, you have no idea what you're talking about. Feel free to also look up ECMO, the sickest of the sick use this, but hey its only one person watching machines go beep boop right? 1:1 minimum care is labour intensive, its often 2:1, sometimes greater.
    Great response! Wasted on Zechs, but many of us will appreciate it.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TurboMedic again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    We got alt's responding to their own alt's up in hurr!
    So I'm not the only one who thought Jutes and Zechs might be the same person.

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    I thought Zechs was Zenops but with more normal

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    Here I thought he was a formerly banned member from red deer or something
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    If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    if you're retarded, having 5 accounts isn't going to make you un-retarded. I just assume that SP and HTG are floating around here somewhere with alts

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    Haven't seen a Tech vs. Eng debate for a while. Think HTG is gone.

    SP has no ties to AB anymore I thought so hard to post here anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disoblige View Post
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    Haven't seen a Tech vs. Eng debate for a while. Think HTG is gone.

    SP has no ties to AB anymore I thought so hard to post here anymore.
    Silly Engineers wasting those extra couple years in school...

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    No one pretends engineering is a desirable profession anymore.

    The techs know it. And the engineers definitely know it.
    Originally posted by Thales of Miletus

    If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Here I thought he was a formerly banned member from red deer or something
    Doesn't seem angry enough

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