Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Elliot, Ellen, he , here...all irrelevant when you no longer have a career.

Your auto-correct made a forced rhyme!
I just figured out who you really are! The guy from Puddle Of Mudd!

[pheoxs]

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Well, no worries of us being the first to approve it. I think we’re a bit more than a week or two behind and I doubt that HC will find some huge issue that the FDA and the UK will have missed in approving it.

As for moving the goalposts, they are currently set at 6 million doses between two companies delivered by the end of March and maybe half the population vaccinated by September. Fairly feeble goals, especially when the deputy chief public health officer immediately says December instead of September

As far as I know they've repeatedly said the approval would likely be mid Dec with the first doses administered in early January with a possibility of maybe December. Which is still consistent with how things are going.

Plus the FDA has NOT approved the Pfizer vaccine yet, they're still reviewing it as well. It's literally just the UK that did, this morning. I get shitting on Canada but health canada taking a few extra weeks to better review things isn't a big deal. Whether they approve it today or 3 weeks from now isn't going to affect the amount of doses we get next year.

[Xtrema]

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I am grateful for this news. Mainly because it ends Canada's Slowest News Day where whatever an Elliott Page is was dominating headlines.

So he/she is straight now?

[killramos]

No such thing as bad press amirit

[phreezee]

I blame Michael Cera

[killramos]

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I blame Michael Cera

Men are pigs.

Wait..

[FraserB]

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As far as I know they've repeatedly said the approval would likely be mid Dec with the first doses administered in early January with a possibility of maybe December. Which is still consistent with how things are going.

Plus the FDA has NOT approved the Pfizer vaccine yet, they're still reviewing it as well. It's literally just the UK that did, this morning. I get shitting on Canada but health canada taking a few extra weeks to better review things isn't a big deal. Whether they approve it today or 3 weeks from now isn't going to affect the amount of doses we get next year.

FDA approval is a foregone conclusion, Pfizer wouldn't be pre-positioning vaccine in the US if it wasn't. Yes, the UK approved this morning, but they obviously put a plan in place for when that happened if they're able to start administering it next week. Pre-positioning ahead of approval seems to be absent in Canada, which makes it seem like our suppliers don't trust we can approve/distribute it in a timely manner; if this was indeed happening, Trudeau and Hajdu would be in front of every camera they could find telling Canadians about it. Instead we have Rick Hillier, only appointed 10 days ago, soft selling a delay in approval and receipt.

[dirtsniffer]

It's somewhat clear to me that the approval will be delayed until our supply is about to be delivered. That way it is safety and approvals are delaying the vaccine. If it is approved now, but not administered until March, only Trudeau's ineptitude is to blame.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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So he/she is straight now?

I assume it means it's sewing a wiener on and stapling a couple grapes into a wrinkled mess of elastoplast bandaids.
I can't fathom caring.

[AndyL]

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N'awlins swingers are super spreaders baby!

Airdrie gotta up it's game

[ExtraSlow]

I'm going to bookmark that "naughty events" company for future reference. Seems like a good time. Beyond meet at one of those "conferences" in 2022?

[jutes]

I'm glad the UK will be the first to test the new vaccine, so when 28 days later becomes a reality, the zombies will be isolated to an island.

[revelations]

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I'm glad the UK will be the first to test the new vaccine, so when 28 days later becomes a reality, the zombies will be isolated to an island.

So true, avoid being a tester for v1.0 of anything - new generation of vehicles, phones, vaccines, etc. If the people who live in a state of unacknowledged fear believe this vaccine will help them, more placebo effect all the way.

However, I suspect they have pushed any symptoms out as far as possible to avoid any implications back to the vaccine - so that the OEM could claim 'other factors' when it becomes a big deal in say, 6 months, that the vaccine can fuck things up bad.

[dirtsniffer]

Do you think they would spend their effort on trying to delay the symptoms? Or just resolving them in general..

[revelations]

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Do you think they would spend their effort on trying to delay the symptoms? Or just resolving them in general..

They would absolutely avoid any circumstance where symptoms/issues could easily be pinned on a vaccine. Standard corporate-think.

[dirtsniffer]

I don't disagree, but the company would avoid those issues by attempting to resolve or minimize them, not by trying to delay their onset.

[Kloubek]

As far as I know, the nature of how these vaccines have been developed are like any other, and unless you are of the vaccines-cause-autism crowd, you are probably safe.

[Tik-Tok]

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I'm going to bookmark that "naughty events" company for future reference. Seems like a good time. Beyond meet at one of those "conferences" in 2022?

Isn't that why we all got keychains?

Ps. Still waiting for a PM reply

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As far as I know, the nature of how these vaccines have been developed are like any other, and unless you are of the vaccines-cause-autism crowd, you are probably safe.

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Even so, I'm kind of glad we aren't the first batch getting done. You never buy the first year of a new model car, right?

[revelations]

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I don't disagree, but the company would avoid those issues by attempting to resolve or minimize them, not by trying to delay their onset.

Thats not how large corporations think. They would avoid anything that could tie whatever issue down the road, onto the vaccine. They have done more than enough internal testing to know the likely outcome and have statistical models they apply to the financials vs. potential claims.

Obviously if 6 months later, vaccinated peoples arms started falling off, its a little tough to hide that - but things like depression or other new chronic conditions would be much harder to prove as being linked to their drug.

The cost to minimize the potential damage done down the road could be higher than paying out the odd settlement.

Shareholders first, fuck everyone else. In some cases like Boeing, they lost that battle by vastly underestimating the totality of their fuckups.

[Xtrema]

TLDW: on Pfizer vaccine
- -70c to distribution center, then can last in normal fridge for up to 5 days before going into body. So it's not as bad as of logistic nightmare.
- 2 shots, 21 days apart, four weeks from 1st shot for full effect
- UK still under EU but got exemption to approved this ahead of EU.
- EU will be a month behind UK in approval
- FDA to meet on 10th on Pfizer and 17th on Moderna.