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    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...officials.html

    21 US asylum seekers turned back. Zombie hoards always start out slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SportEL View Post
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    Yet, the news about the risks of mask usage has been effectively censored. Why is that? Mask usage has shown to increase headaches, you're breathing in your own bad air - CO2 and other toxins, and risk hypoxia with unsafe oxygen levels. You're depleting oneself of oxygen and thus harming your immune system's ability to fight the virus. How good does mask usage help against getting Covid? Are there any scientific studies showing that masks prevent Covid? And yet we want people that have a harder time breathing such as seniors wearing a mask? One should know the risks of mask use if one wears one, but of course voices against the narrative are silenced, just like how narratives of lock-downs being necessary have been silenced, but we now know there have been no real difference between those places that locked down and those that hadn't.
    Paper masks, if worn too long, get wet and then trap bacteria etc. - which can cause other issues.

    You need a mask that is free flowing but also prevents speaking moistly. You are not protecting yourself from C19 with a mask.

    Lockdowns are complete horseshit here in AB. Other places have a different strain of the bug with different consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    Lockdowns are complete horseshit here in AB. Other places have a different strain of the bug with different consequences.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by syscal View Post
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    Source?
    I thought everything I said was 100% bullshit?

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...0-strains.aspx

    Flu viruses do the same thing as well - no vaccine will ever protect 100% against all the strains and variants in the wild. Thats why a c19 vaccine that promises 100% effectiveness is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    I thought everything I said was 100% bullshit?

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...0-strains.aspx

    Flu viruses do the same thing as well - no vaccine will ever protect 100% against all the strains and variants in the wild. Thats why a c19 vaccine that promises 100% effectiveness is a joke.
    Data?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Data?
    The link where it mentions the dozens of different variants , and thus, the vaccine challenges, is not visible to you?

    The c19 variants keep mutating. Many viruses do this. Thats why the flu vaccine is something like 30-40% effective.
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    This thread has become worse than CNN

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    Vaccine developers has stated multiple times that more than one vaccine will be necessary. It's disingenous to state that all of them are aiming for 100% because there is no one vaccine that will 'rule them all'
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    The link where it mentions the dozens of different variants , and thus, the vaccine challenges, is not visible to you?

    The c19 variants keep mutating. Many viruses do this. Thats why the flu vaccine is something like 30-40% effective.
    So just because there is no solution, we should just die?

    As your BS Shutdown,. Guess what's happening is US when it's uncontrolled.



    Shut down is BS, economy need to continue, this much we agree. Just not on the how.

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    What part of China is Arizona?
    June 28th: 3,857 new cases.
    June 29th: 625 new cases.

    Seems regit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    I thought everything I said was 100% bullshit?

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...0-strains.aspx

    Flu viruses do the same thing as well - no vaccine will ever protect 100% against all the strains and variants in the wild. Thats why a c19 vaccine that promises 100% effectiveness is a joke.
    I am well aware of there being mutations of the virus, I'm asking for your source that says Alberta has a weaker strain of it and how we're completely over-reacting as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    What part of China is Arizona?
    June 28th: 3,857 new cases.
    June 29th: 625 new cases.

    Seems regit.
    Less people got tested on Sunday because hangover, church, or both, so less results on Monday. I've actually noticed this across the board for all countries in the last two months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Less people got tested on Sunday because hangover, church, or both, so less results on Monday. I've actually noticed this across the board for all countries in the last two months.
    Sat/Sun/Mon numbers are always low because of the weekend. Usually Thurs/Fri are the highest each week.

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    660 News: Albertans kicked out of a BC provincial park by RCMP.
    https://www.660citynews.com/video/20...-park-by-rcmp/

    Ab resident kicked out of bc park. Bc parks claims that they want to ensure bc residents have access to vacations close to home.

    Sounds like discrimination to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtsniffer View Post
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    660 News: Albertans kicked out of a BC provincial park by RCMP.
    https://www.660citynews.com/video/20...-park-by-rcmp/

    Ab resident kicked out of bc park. Bc parks claims that they want to ensure bc residents have access to vacations close to home.

    Sounds like discrimination to me
    My understanding is that the park they stayed at is a provincial park. Like Alberta, BC has closed their provincial parks to non-residents. Federal and private parks are still open to whomever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    Put on mask.

    Get moved ahead of the line and enter store.

    Take off mask.

    Tell people it's a hoax and they're sheep.

    Get beat almost to death.

    Fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    So just because there is no solution, we should just die?
    No, you should just live and go about your day. This sort of hyperbole is what polarizes people on the issue so much. If you're under 70 years old your chance of dying is so miniscule it's not even worth thinking about. If they were just honest and said "Hey look, we know the risks are virtually nil at this point, but if you could just try and keep a mask around for when you're going to Costco it would really help the spread while we quarantine the old folks." People might be inclined to just help out instead of being so combative about everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    What part of China is Arizona?
    June 28th: 3,857 new cases.
    June 29th: 625 new cases.

    Seems regit.
    With the very high rate of false positives are people still putting much worry into these new case rates? You've got countries sending in swabs from fruit coming back as positive, and nurses sending random unused test kits back that are showing positive, why is anyone even looking at the new case rate anymore? Deaths is the one metric that seems to be helpful at this point, even though we know it is over inflated as well.

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    Maybe the new Pig virus from that disgusting cesspool of a country will finally finish off humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    No, you should just live and go about your day. This sort of hyperbole is what polarizes people on the issue so much. If you're under 70 years old your chance of dying is so miniscule it's not even worth thinking about. If they were just honest and said "Hey look, we know the risks are virtually nil at this point, but if you could just try and keep a mask around for when you're going to Costco it would really help the spread while we quarantine the old folks." People might be inclined to just help out instead of being so combative about everything.
    Yep... Like I said a while back, one of my very good customers is a lead doctor of internal medicine specializing in infectious disease and even he does not wear a mask when comes in. He says pretty much the same common sense, wash your hands, take care to not be glamming on people and if you have someone at risk in you direct day to day contacts, take extra precautions. He says you have nothing to fear for your person. Otherwise it is the same people dying from this he sees every year from normal flu. Now getting on a plane in closed quarters with no avoidance whatsoever, wearing a mask is not a bad idea but for the most part, the factors are easily mitigated with common sense.

    He says the real shitty thing isn’t the covid, but in fact is our insane reaction to it which is leading to situations of elderly people dying from simply giving up getting who are hospitalized from other things like cancer etc because they are not allowed to have family visiting or barely human contact and the get depressed and just stop wanting to live. He also says the amount of deathbed visits over skype if absolutely horrible. Those deaths are not even being considered while everybody is freaking out about controllable shit.

    I dunno, but I trust that guy and have zero reason to second guess him. You all can keep calling each other asshole human beings all you want, but at the end of the day, common sense is definitely becoming less common on all sides.

    *For the record, I am not against mask wearers and do not suggest you are an idiot for wearing one, I also think people who are half intelligent and control their social interactions without wearing one are not idiots either.
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