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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    If you can put a speed limit on COVID-19, that would be nice and please share that with the world.


    Arguing about the validity of this pandemic, and whether or not you think it is one, is pretty pointless for a few reasons - the least of which being that we're here now, everyone in the government (and every government everywhere) seems to care about the pandemic, and bitching about the pandemic not being a real pandemic on beyond isn't going to do jack shit about it.

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    Important safety tips.
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    Are our public servants so shitty that we are still looking at 2014-2016 statistics?

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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    The problem with historical data is that it's under at least 3 different policies (fully open, fully closed, stage 1/2/3 opened) with variables from not fully closing border with US and on top of potentially 2 different strains.

    So there isn't any concrete proof easing any policies will result in any differences. It's easy to say mask does nothing unless you can travel to a parallel universe to see what happens without them. (May be that parallel universe is Russia when even Putin has to mandate masks now).

    The only fact we have is how this thing is transmitted, how long it stay active on surfaces and potential impact on some people in the short term. And the guidance is already all there on how to address this but people still choose not to follow them.
    This is what I was getting at.

    Without a proper control group, you can't make comparisons

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rural_Juror View Post
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    Are our public servants so shitty that we are still looking at 2014-2016 statistics?
    Last thing we need on Beyond is pulling out stats that prove Druh is right in lowering speed limits. And that 3 columns alone already shows a trend.
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    410 new cases of COVID-19, 4 deaths reported in Alberta on Wednesday


    What does the mass media focus on? Selling you fear, based on raw numbers without any context or perspective.

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    What if it were 420 cases and 69 deaths?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentry View Post
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    What if it were 420 cases and 69 deaths?
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    410 new cases of COVID-19, 4 deaths reported in Alberta on Wednesday


    What does the mass media focus on? Selling you fear, based on raw numbers without any context or perspective.

    Depends on the audience, to me its data. Means not as bad as the weekend but its not as good as before Thanksgiving.

    We already know we can go into this blind. So we need data to tell us how to adjust the dial.

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    literally the stupidest thing i've seen in my lifetime - this makes the SARS panic look like a silly game.

    We have established that the numbers of annual deaths from motor vehicle collisions roughly correspond with C19 in AB.

    If we applied the same standards, driving would essentially be banned on all but the sunniest days of the year, and then maintain AT LEAST 500m between vehicles.

    where is the mass media fear narrative? we have an EPIDEMIC of vehicle related deaths!!!!
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    Come on man! Swine Flu > SARS.

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    You ever think that maybe cause we are (somewhat) complying with the restriction and that is why the death count is low? Should we just let loose and get rid of 1 or 2% of Alberta's population?? Some death rates in the most affected countries for reference:

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

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    If we let 'loose' like sweden did, we would have about 3x the total deaths - about 900, or say ~45 dead people in the 0-59 age category.

    Lets get real here. This is NOT any kind of serious pandemic that its being made out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    If we let 'loose' like sweden did, we would have about 3x the total deaths - about 900, or say ~45 dead people in the 0-59 age category.

    Lets get real here. This is NOT any kind of serious pandemic that its being made out to be.
    Explain your math. If we let loose most likely ICUs and hospitals get overrun and deaths go up

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    literally the stupidest thing i've seen in my lifetime - this makes the SARS panic look like a silly game.

    We have established that the numbers of annual deaths from motor vehicle collisions roughly correspond with C19 in AB.

    If we applied the same standards, driving would essentially be banned on all but the sunniest days of the year, and then maintain AT LEAST 500m between vehicles.

    where is the mass media fear narrative? we have an EPIDEMIC of vehicle related deaths!!!!
    Well, we are now almost 1 year in and stats matches your 2016 auto injury sample with close to 6 months of counter measure against COVID.

    So are you saying that with 0 counter measure and not freak out, we would have the same outcome?

    All the numbers are telling me is people are carrying on life as if COVID isnt here. So nobody is freaking out.

    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    If we let 'loose' like sweden did, we would have about 3x the total deaths - about 900, or say ~45 dead people in the 0-59 age category.

    Lets get real here. This is NOT any kind of serious pandemic that its being made out to be.
    Sweden didn't "let loose", they just opt out of March/Apr/May lock down. But they implement the same policies for safe opening.

    Sweden has 2x pop of AB, 6x more infections and 20x more deaths.

    So we follow Sweden, we would have 3000 dead at this point which render your not as bad as auto death argument moot.
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    Czech Republic really dropped the ball on wave 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rural_Juror View Post
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    Czech Republic really dropped the ball on wave 2.
    I bet their financial situation goes in the shitter.
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    They've written some bad Czechs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    So we follow Sweden, we would have 3000 dead at this point which render your not as bad as auto death argument moot.
    The auto model scenario was to mock the main stream media for the fear and control they have pushed. With 300 deaths, this should NOT be front page news.

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    Dude. You need to get on Twitter and tell Prime President Putin that he is making a very big mistake.

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