Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[89coupe]

I totally support mandatory vaccinations for any business that wishes to implement it.

I also support a vaccine passport.

I wish businesses would push for healthy employees as well.

You want to be fat and unhealthy then don’t expect health & medical coverage.

[Kg810]

2 weeks to bend the curve and save the fatties. We got this.

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This vaccine passport is just utter garbage with each province doing things differently. The feds should’ve just created one app, one program, and let provinces use it as they wished. Might as well leave travel passports to the provinces while we are at it.

[Disoblige]

Under Bill 89C, there will be a pop tax.

[Darell_n]

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Why is a horse in front of a rabbit?
Rabbit is eaten in many places in North America.
Horse is only eaten by sketchy markets advertising it as beef.

Horse is excellent for eating. Growing up, we were a major buyer for meat horses in Northern Alberta for the plant in Ft Mcleod. When that plant burnt down we trucked them to North Dakota for years, most was shipped to Japan. Even planes filled with live horses where sent there, good eating I must say.

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[ThePenIsMightier]

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This vaccine passport is just utter garbage with each province doing things differently. The feds should’ve just created one app, one program, and let provinces use it as they wished. Might as well leave travel passports to the provinces while we are at it.

Maybe one day, we'll have a Federal Leader...

[Buster]

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Have lung cancer? Were you a smoker? Yes - no medical treatment.

Get diabetes? What's your BMI, too high? Yes - no medical treatment.

etc etc etc...

While I see your point and don't particularly disagree, where do you draw the line?

Show me a vaccine for diabetes and I'll show you no medical treatment.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Under Bill 89C, there will be a pop tax.

Ha! I think this is true, isn't it?!
Is this the one where they now have to classify themselves as "fit for human consumption" whereas before they didn't?

[mr2mike]

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2 weeks to bend the curve and save the fatties. We got this.

You leave my BMI outta this!

[Misterman]

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Mandating a vaccine on a citizen in order for them to stay employed... Etc etc etc
Where do we draw the line?

Fun game right?

I don't even know why people are making these arguments as if it's some weird either or scenario as far as healthcare. Our healthcare works on a triage system, it always has. It's very simple to just set your triage protocol that life threatened patients supersede unvaxxed covid patients. Problem solved.

Also, this should not even be a problem discussion to begin with any longer. At the start we had lockdowns with hospital cases at 1000, because 100% of the population was susceptible to covid. Now we have 70% vaccinated and only 30%(give or take a couple percent for the unhealthy drains on society that are susceptible despite being vaxxed) of population is susceptible. The only way for the hospital numbers to go parabolic now to the point of shutdown is if the vaccine doesn't work. People can argue about efficacy of natural immunity vs vax all they want. But natural immunity IS a form of immunity that is better than nothing. If 30% of population is going to refuse being vaccinated, they're going to deal with the consequences of contracting covid at some point in their life, might as well keep everything open and work through this fast as possible. I'd hate to see us repeat this mistake yet again.

[arcticcat522]

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I don't even know why people are making these arguments as if it's some weird either or scenario as far as healthcare. Our healthcare works on a triage system, it always has. It's very simple to just set your triage protocol that life threatened patients supersede unvaxxed covid patients. Problem solved.

Also, this should not even be a problem discussion to begin with any longer. At the start we had lockdowns with hospital cases at 1000, because 100% of the population was susceptible to covid. Now we have 70% vaccinated and only 30%(give or take a couple percent for the unhealthy drains on society that are susceptible despite being vaxxed) of population is susceptible. The only way for the hospital numbers to go parabolic now to the point of shutdown is if the vaccine doesn't work. People can argue about efficacy of natural immunity vs vax all they want. But natural immunity IS a form of immunity that is better than nothing. If 30% of population is going to refuse being vaccinated, they're going to deal with the consequences of contracting covid at some point in their life, might as well keep everything open and work through this fast as possible. I'd hate to see us repeat this mistake yet again.

This, what do the numbers look like.....so 30% make up 80% of the cases in hospital. How long until the 30% has some natural imunity. Can't the health system withstand the 30% who may be admitted?? Until 70% vaccinated becomes 90%+......too many numbers

[JfuckinC]

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This, what do the numbers look like.....so 30% make up 80% of the cases in hospital. How long until the 30% has some natural imunity. Can't the health system withstand the 30% who may be admitted?? Until 70% vaccinated becomes 90%+......too many numbers

No the health system can’t handle it lol thats the issue here, the 30% making up the 80% is still a lot of morans

[Misterman]

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No the health system can’t handle it lol thats the issue here, the 30% making up the 80% is still a lot of morans

Again this is nothing but fear mongering guesses. The numbers aren't high right now comparatively to before, but we are acting like the sky is falling. And how about some transparency with hospital numbers? So 400 people in hospital, 100 of those in ICU. If you're not in ICU, is there a real reason to be in the hospital with covid? What is the numbers around this stuff? How many people in hospital are there because of covid, and not just identified as covid positive despite being there for a completely different reason? There's a lot of unknown variables here.

[brucebanner]

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Show me a vaccine for diabetes and I'll show you no medical treatment.

There are direct causes and direct ways to improve one's health. That isn't mandated though or you're not denied coverage.

I only brought it up for another point of view and the "slippery slope" argument.

[Buster]

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There are direct causes and direct ways to improve one's health. That isn't mandated though or you're not denied coverage.

I only brought it up for another point of view and the "slippery slope" argument.

Slippery slope arguments rarely work out, though.

[flipstah]

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Get a Covid vaccine or wave your right to medical treatment for Covid.

Make it happen.

That’s what I asked before haha! I just wasn’t blunt about it

[SportEL]

If one gets the Vaccine but still gets Covid, does that waive their Right to get Treatment?, and what about the Side Effects they Get from getting the Vaccine? Hmmm..

If only there was a Cheap Effective Alternative for Treatment and Prevention of this Most Deadly Virus in History. Why Yes, this '3rd World African Nation' Tokyo Medical Chairman Is Recommending Ivermectin (in Human Prescription Formulation, not the Horse Paste that ppl are trying to Conflate the Two About)




But the answer is quite simple, they can't keep their own Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) going when they Admit there is an Treatment that works. Keep the $$$ Train Going and Tyrants Lust for Control

[arcticcat522]

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No the health system can’t handle it lol thats the issue here, the 30% making up the 80% is still a lot of morans

So when will the 70 become 80 or 90 due to infection? Or will it not matter because of immunity dropping off

[zechs]

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Slippery slope arguments rarely work out, though.

Except they do all the time, because any system is always pushed to its extremes eventually, which is exactly what the slippery slope argument is.