Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[Buster]

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Any real info on how good (or bad) the Russian vaccine has been working?

Fill your boots.

https://youtu.be/q13aFM0Jp4w

[pheoxs]

Largest single day cases for Alberta so far with the vast majority of the 364 new cases were in Edmonton, looking pretty rough for them. Also new voluntary measures asking people to reduce size of gatherings from 50 down to 15 though not mandatory yet.

34 new cases for Calgary, active cases fell by 22 which is nice to see. Overall we're holding steady but whats happening north is quite concerning.

[ExtraSlow]

Edmonton was always ugly.

[corsvette]

Does Edmonton have a mandatory mask bylaw?

[ExtraSlow]

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Masks

Effective August 1, 2020, wearing a mask or face covering will be mandatory in all indoor public places and public vehicles.

They do

[corsvette]

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They do

Finding lots of places with mandatory masks have a increase in cases, maybe its just the second wave/flu season that's been predicted since the start. I'm in BC, masks required in some corporate stores but use generally is maybe 50/50. Our covid numbers are also staying manageable. I think in the Kelowna/Okanagan region we have less than 30 cases. Hope we don't get like Quebec and Ontario.

[revelations]

Masks will have sweet fuck all to do with new cases as the more people they test, the more positives and false positives they will find.

If for eg. AB tested 10,000 people in august, and 100,000 people in sept, it should not be surprising to see the number of cases go up by an order of magnitude.

Anyone have a total test count to positive case count stat? (ie. ratio of tested count to positive count)

[sabad66]

But seriously this stuff looks pretty promising and hopefully makes it into Canada ASAP.

Between these cutting edge therapies and vaccines I hope that means we can get back to normal by mid 2021. I really miss big crowded events

[pheoxs]

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Masks will have sweet fuck all to do with new cases as the more people they test, the more positives and false positives they will find.

If for eg. AB tested 10,000 people in august, and 100,000 people in sept, it should not be surprising to see the number of cases go up by an order of magnitude.

Anyone have a total test count to positive case count stat? (ie. ratio of tested count to positive count)

Care to explain why Edmonton went from a 0.5% positive rate up to a 3.2% positive rate today with their largest ever outbreak of cases?

Also what your asking for about total tests and total positives is on the AB site. Thanks to our provinces excellent contact tracing the majority of our cases are backtracked to known exposures, you can see that on the AB data site. So you're claiming all the people with false positives happen to be around other people with false positives?

Is false positives now contagious? Perhaps through a virus?

[SportEL]

No need for a vaccine.

There are already Cheap off-patent treatment and prevention options out there such as HCQ and Zinc and Azithromycin. Studies show HCQ has helped reduce mortality rate by half. Outpatient treatment of HCQ and Zinc has shown 99.3% survival rate. You can also boost your natural immune system with Vitamin C and D3 supplements and exercise. The cure and prophylaxis is already here for those that are worried about the overblown hysteria over this.

[revelations]

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you're claiming all the people with false positives happen to be around other people with false positive

I have no clue what the fuck you are on about, I am stating there is a % of results that are false positives. No test on a mass scale is 100% accurate.

And thanks for the site link (not) - but going through the AB C19 site, the most critical piece of information is right there - the % of positive tests.

All the fear narrative of the horseshit mass media disappears. Anyone spewing raw case numbers without context, is an idiot.
The number of cases with respect to the % tested, is NOT rising - nor has it done so since April.



So guess how much the BS mask bylaw has changed things? Exactly sweet fuck all.

[Buster]

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So guess how much the BS mask bylaw has changed things? Exactly sweet fuck all.

This conclusion isn't supported by this data. You haven't isolated masks as a variable.

[revelations]

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This conclusion isn't supported by this data. You haven't isolated masks as a variable.

What happened to the % of positive cases after the masks were implemented?

If masks were so effective, surely we would have started to see a marked decreased in the positive cases by day 30 or so.

[Buster]

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What happened to the % of positive cases after the masks were implemented?

If masks were so effective, surely we would have started to see a marked decreased in the positive cases by day 30 or so.

Again, there are too many variables to make this conclusion.

[revelations]

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Again, there are too many variables to make this conclusion.

On a mass scale, the resulting effect should have been obvious by now. We have masses now being forced to wear masks in public spaces and massed getting tested.

However, no doubt the testing methods, accuracy and such have changed over time.

[zechs]

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Again, there are too many variables to make this conclusion.

As there are for making any solid conclusions on mask efficacy beyond "they may help".

Lol, fluid dynamics. As Killramos said, please do tell.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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As there are for making any solid conclusions on mask efficacy beyond "they may help".

Lol, fluid dynamics. As Killramos said, please do tell.

I posted a study from this week in the super serious covids science thread.

[pheoxs]

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I have no clue what the fuck you are on about, I am stating there is a % of results that are false positives. No test on a mass scale is 100% accurate.

And thanks for the site link (not) - but going through the AB C19 site, the most critical piece of information is right there - the % of positive tests.

All the fear narrative of the horseshit mass media disappears. Anyone spewing raw case numbers without context, is an idiot.
The number of cases with respect to the % tested, is NOT rising - nor has it done so since April.



So guess how much the BS mask bylaw has changed things? Exactly sweet fuck all.

The PCR test's false positive rate is listed at 0.01% so on 17k tests that means there is typically two false positives. Simply saying we're getting more cases because we are testing more is not valid reasoning. We are testing more because more people are getting sick.

Fall always brings cold/flu season now that the germy kids are back at school. There's a reason that many places are seeing upticks in cases and its not just due to expanded testing.

And what I was saying yesterday was Edmonton is seeing a huge spike in numbers, their positivity rate is 3.5% versus AB's average of 1.5%. Edmonton had ~270 new cases while Calgary had 34 cases. You can't chalk that up to oh we're just testing more.

[duaner]

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I have no clue what the fuck you are on about, I am stating there is a % of results that are false positives. No test on a mass scale is 100% accurate.

Shouldn't false positives more or less be a wash with the false negatives?

"With COVID-19 tests, false negatives seem to be much more common than false positives"

https://time.com/5880255/covid-19-tests-types/

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And thanks for the site link (not) - but going through the AB C19 site, the most critical piece of information is right there - the % of positive tests.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...-19-cases.html

This is Canada wide but the .csv is to the right of the map. Unfortunately, the number of people tested is per province (can't break down per city/region) and is cumulative, so a little bit of math needs to be done to figure out the "actual" daily number of tests.

Analyze it and let us know what you find.

[Buster]

No reason that false positives should be equivalent to false negatives...and the presence of either of them leads you to different conclusions on the utility of the tests depending on the prevalence in the population.