Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[Tik-Tok]

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Just go over to that safe space, have some avocado toast, and hug out those feelings.

Joking aside, the charts I posted have a 2:1 ratio of 10-39 vs 40-59 cases. The second wave was about the same.

Are those raw or population adjusted?

[killramos]

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Just go over to that safe space, have some avocado toast, and hug out those feelings.

Joking aside, the charts I posted have a 2:1 ratio of 10-39 vs 40-59 cases. The second wave was about the same.

Those 40-50 bars look terribly similar to any of the 3 preceding bars. 50-60 is likely getting pretty skewed by being 50% vaccinated.

2:1 ratio is quite the stretch no matter how you marth that lol

[vengie]

I for one enjoy statistics.

[mr2mike]

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Those 40-50 bars look terribly similar to any of the 3 preceding bars. 50-60 is likely getting pretty skewed by being 50% vaccinated.

2:1 ratio is quite the stretch no matter how you marth that lol

Need some sort of unvaccinated multiplier

[killramos]

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Need some sort of unvaccinated multiplier

I do the only thing that makes sense with skewed data, leave it out of the analysis.

[kertejud2]

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I've said it before that there are lots of things that Kenney deserves a lot of criticism for. Pandemic response weighs generally pretty low on that list. Because it was such an unprecedented situation and he is getting absolutely hammered for it from both sides. There's no real right move for him.

There's a reason Kenney's ratings over the pandemic have fallen and fallen.

Started out decisive, relatively quick. Firm. Then things started to just get wishy-washy, half-assed, politically motivated acceptance of non-compliance, bad communication, no enforcement which led to exacerbated fatigue, further non-compliance, etc..

Even this week, we've gone from Kenney talking about how restrictions 'don't do much' to adding more restrictions. That's just fucked up messaging. This comes after numerous conflicting messaging going back to before the second wave where we'd go from one press conference talking about personal responsibility and not government action will get us through this, to announcing government action. Don't travel, then all the MLAs and staffers travel. It shifted from actual action being taken, to thinking hopes and dreams would win the day when it had gotten past the point that was the case, and needing to try and convince people the restrictions are needed now even though they weren't last week when people were calling for them.

Early pandemic response was, at worst, adequate. Everything since has been an example of how you fuck up messaging and response to ensure you get hated by everybody. The early pandemic response polling was high, it wasn't a partisan issue. Certainly not broadly. It's when he got into the worst of both world (restrictions, but unenforced and bad messaging) that both sides really started to turn, and the focus has been more on keeping his own caucus at bay, than actually governing.

[Abeo]

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Those 40-50 bars look terribly similar to any of the 3 preceding bars. 50-60 is likely getting pretty skewed by being 50% vaccinated.

2:1 ratio is quite the stretch no matter how you marth that lol

Reported Cases - From 2021 Mar 25 to 2021 May 6
Number % Compared to 40-59
20-39 Years: 21156 135%
10-39 Years: 30484 194%
40-59 Years: 15700

Second wave:

Reported Cases - From 2020 Nov 7 to 2021 Jan 6
Number % Compared to 40-59
20-39 Years: 28822 137%
10-39 Years: 37258 177%
40-59 Years: 21069

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Are those raw or population adjusted?

Raw, from the Alberta covid data

[killramos]

You know there are a couple more years included between 10 and 39 versus 40-59 right?

[Abeo]

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You know there are a couple more years included between 10 and 39 versus 40-59 right?

Really? Maybe that's why I included the 20-39 data....

[Abeo]

Update to the rolling 7 day charts from a while back:

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Data was pulled this morning

[Xtrema]

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Early pandemic response was, at worst, adequate. Everything since has been an example of how you fuck up messaging and response to ensure you get hated by everybody. The early pandemic response polling was high, it wasn't a partisan issue. Certainly not broadly. It's when he got into the worst of both world (restrictions, but unenforced and bad messaging) that both sides really started to turn, and the focus has been more on keeping his own caucus at bay, than actually governing.

The shitty part is 70-80% of Albertans on both sides wants the same thing. But he's appeasing the 20-30% that UCP needed to stay in power.

[killramos]

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Really? Maybe that's why I included the 20-39 data....

Well it certainly doesn’t lend much credibility to your 2:1 ratio claim. When it’s more like 35%. Oh, and even then it’s including the substantially vaccinated 50-60 population still.

Take that out and you are talking that young people are a mere somewhere between 2.5 and 12.5% higher according to you graphs.

But 40-59 is still truly 2x the hospitalization rate of 20-39. That’s despite a huge chunk of them vaccinated.

[ExtraSlow]

The number of deaths chart is awesome and wonderful and amazing, and I'm excited to see a similar trend in Alberta hospitalization numbers soon.

[Abeo]

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Well it certainly doesn’t lend much credibility to your 2:1 ratio claim. When it’s more like 35%. Oh, and even then it’s including the substantially vaccinated 50-60 population still.

You mean this?

"Joking aside, the charts I posted have a 2:1 ratio of 10-39 vs 40-59 cases. The second wave was about the same."

meanwhile....

it’s really 40-60 YO’s (old people) who are making the greatest mess right now

Well the data says active and new cases are pretty balanced amongst all the age groups

I think stubborn Gen x idiots ( the original antivaxxers ) have some owning up to do

Marth indeed.

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The number of deaths chart is awesome and wonderful and amazing, and I'm excited to see a similar trend in Alberta hospitalization numbers soon.

Agreed

[duaner]

Crazy virus. At least this is very rare, but still...

"A new scientific review has suggested the existence of a link between COVID-19 and a rare spinal disorder that can cause paralysis and quadriplegia and that has affected adults and a few children in several countries.

Researchers in the United States and Panama have found at least 43 cases of acute transverse myelitis (ATM) — among a global total of 86 million COVID-19 cases in 21 countries — that they say has been linked to a previous COVID-19 infection."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/health/med...koD?li=AAggNb9

[JRSC00LUDE]

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I for one enjoy statistics.

You can use statistics to prove anything, 45% of all people know that.

[killramos]

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You mean this?

"Joking aside, the charts I posted have a 2:1 ratio of 10-39 vs 40-59 cases. The second wave was about the same."

meanwhile....

Marth indeed.

As long as you agree you are lumping things together incredibly “conveniently” to come up with those numbers

Still doesn’t change the fact that 40-59 are clogging up hospitals at 2x the rate of 20-39 without any gerrymandering required.

[ExtraSlow]

gerrymandering is one of my favourite words, but also one of my least favourite concepts. the internal struggle is real.

[Abeo]

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As long as you agree you are lumping things together incredibly “conveniently” to come up with those numbers

Still doesn’t change the fact that 40-59 are clogging up hospitals at 2x the rate of 20-39 without any gerrymandering required.

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Young people spread, old people get sick. Sounds about right.

This is all I was supporting.

[mr2mike]

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gerrymandering is one of my favourite words, but also one of my least favourite concepts. the internal struggle is real.

Meddling is mine. But hate it when it comes in the same sentence with manager(s).