Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19)

[Disoblige]

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I liked it when life was simple, contemplating on buying your mixer and start baking

Life is simple man. Don't over complicate it.

Eat/sleep cycles ~30,000 or so times and then die.

[flipstah]

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Life is simple man. Don't over complicate it.

Eat/sleep cycles ~30,000 or so times and then die.

Perfect. You're always the voice of reason

[Xtrema]

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The human brain is not well equipped to intuitively understand exponential growth.

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-1...statistics.htm

We went from average of 40/day in June to now average of 100/day in July and the month still got 2 weeks to go.

Everything lags. So even with mask mandate, it still won't stop gatherings and my bet is if we can hold on to 150/day until Sep, we kinda have this under control. I don't see how it'll get better than that.

Would be interesting to see if they ever release symptomatic vs asymptomatic positive numbers. Or if that datset is still too small as only people going in for testing are still either symptomatic or potential at risk (like getting spit on).

[A790]

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Serious question. What constitutes a public health crisis?

I look at the statistics for hospitalization numbers, deaths, demographics of the people affected, and their relative health condition, and my opinion is on the opposite side of the spectrum. Certainly a crisis in senior/retirement homes that have been disproportionately ravaged by the virus, but a public health crisis?

I support masks in tight indoor areas (ie. buses, planes etc.), and I would certainly wear one myself, because I feel it helps lower transmission. But I just can't help but feel that we've lost the plot .....

Okay. Let's skip the first question for a second.

I want to address your last comment: "I support masks...".

Consider the context here and look at what you're saying. It baffles me that people think masks are a political issue. It's a practical issue. Now, it's a policy issue. And your language implies that, to you, it's a poltical issue.

Here's the thing: it doesn't matter if you "support" it or not. We have enough evidence that, regardless of whether or not you "support" wearing masks, the usage of masks works in reducing contagion and spread.

So what you should be saying is "I will be wearing a mask...", or "I won't be wearing a mask...".

And by extension, "I trust what the data shows me" or "I don't trust what the data shows me".

Now, are we in a public health crisis?

I don't know. I think that depends on who you ask.

• The WHO thinks so
• Alberta Health Services thinks so
• The federal government thinks so
• The municipal government thinks so
• The CDC thinks so
• The EU thinks so
• New Zealand thinks so (and you'd think they'd be over it by now...)
• Most of the USA's leadership thnks so...

There is broad bipartisan acknowledgement that Covid-19 represents a significant risk to public health. It's plastered on every website you visit. It's even on the above-fold part of the Google results page.

If you're asking "is this a public health crisis", what I hear is "I am choosing not to believe the information being provided by every major health organization on the planet" and I struggle to reply back because I don't subscribe to that belief system.

And to be clear, the "belief system" I'm referring to is the rejection of science.

Like my rant about masks, whether or not we are in a public health crisis is neither up for debate nor is it political. It just is.

There are strong streaks of anti-authority and anti-intellectualism throughout society, even here on beyond, and it's hard to have an actual conversation on this or an increasingly large number of subjects if one or more parties involved subscribe to those beliefs.

So, if you choose not to believe the information available to you from the world's doctors and scientists, then to you, there is no public health crisis.

Otherwise, we are in a crisis by every measure and definition.

[Xtrema]

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So, if you choose not to believe the information available to you from the world's doctors and scientists, then to you, there is no public health crisis.

Bet your ass this will be treated more seriously if symptoms includes ED.

[flipstah]

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Bet your ass this will be treated more seriously if symptoms includes ED.

How do we know it doesn't? *CONSPIRACY*

[adam c]

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You're absolutely right.

A more appropriate figure would be 172 deaths out of 4.4 million people because you can test only the dead.

Which highlights even better how absurd this whole thing is. You can't prove a negative, so claiming the lockdown has done anything for actual prevention is also highly suspect beyond the reasoning of less people interacting has some unquantifiable effect on transmission.

In 2016, more people died due to suicide then 2020 covid deaths in Alberta.

You’re looking at it wrong, 172 deaths in Alberta, thousands across Canada and hundreds of thousands more around the world WITH restrictions, what would and will it be without

[A790]

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Bet your ass this will be treated more seriously if symptoms includes ED.

Nah, because then people think that things going up is a good thing.

[Tik-Tok]

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how do we know it doesn't? *conspiracy*

covid-19 is turning the frogs gay!

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You’re looking at it wrong, 172 deaths in Alberta, thousands across Canada and hundreds of thousands more around the world WITH restrictions, what would and will it be without

He doesn't care though, because he's not affected by it (yet). He is a self-admitted sociopath. Remember that while responding to him.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

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BC has put in some work on their COVID strategies

http://www.bccdc.ca/health-info/dise...vid-19-and-sex

Y'all just scrolled on past the "BC Government recommends glory hole use" post, huh. That's absolutely hilarious.

[syscal]

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You’re looking at it wrong, 172 deaths in Alberta, thousands across Canada and hundreds of thousands more around the world WITH restrictions, what would and will it be without

Agreed. Family and friends saying "This lockdown was a waste! Hardly anyone died here!"...seriously?! So many people have this cart-horse thinking.

As far as psychological impact on mask wearing on today's youth, what's the big difference between now and the 1920's? Did everyone's grandparants tell them stories about the time they or their parents were forced to wear masks? Probably not so much with there being actual problems in the world.

https://www.history.com/news/1918-sp...ing-resistance

[Ca_Silvia13]

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Do you think every time 172 people die from a common source it's worthy of the pandemic title and the shut in country/province/city like what has been done in the past 5 months?

[syscal]

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Do you think every time 172 people die from a common source it's worthy of the pandemic title and the shut in country/province/city like what has been done in the past 5 months?

How many dead if we did nothing at all? You are ignoring that there is a world outside of Calgary.

[flipstah]

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How many dead if we did nothing at all? You are ignoring that there is a world outside of Calgary.

There are other communities than Aspen? News to me.


hahahahah jk I'm poor

[Xtrema]

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How many dead if we did nothing at all? You are ignoring that there is a world outside of Calgary.

You can't argue using Californian or Floridian number tho.

Then they switch to fake news, fake death narrative.

[syscal]

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You can't argue using Californian or Floridian number tho.

Gotta say, the biggest attention grabber for me was Texas using refrigerated trucks to store the dead. Texas FFS! Then I learned other places had been doing this before them.

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There are other communities than Aspen? News to me.


hahahahah jk I'm poor

me too, but I'm walking distance from the "good" part of Aspen. Does that count?

[Xtrema]

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Gotta say, the biggest attention grabber for me was Texas using refrigerated trucks to store the dead. Texas FFS! Then I learned other places had been doing this before them.

NY was knee deep with those trucks in Apr.

I have to say that I'm surprised at one of the guys I know at work that's alt-theory, maga hat wearing Trudeau hater and all of a sudden huge proponent of safety and follows all COVID19 protocol to the T. All because his wife and daughter are at risk.

[flipstah]

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Gotta say, the biggest attention grabber for me was Texas using refrigerated trucks to store the dead. Texas FFS! Then I learned other places had been doing this before them.

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me too, but I'm walking distance from the "good" part of Aspen. Does that count?

From what I understand, only peasants walk.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I liked it when life was simple, contemplating on buying your mixer and start baking

It was seriously sold to some cheerleaders.

[ZenOps]

California at 1/4 the death rate of New York. A lot of it can be attributed to figuring out what works to mitigate symptoms. By the time it hits Canada bad, we might be a solid 1/8th rate of New York. As always, time is a blessing. The more time you have, the more stuff you can figure out.