Legal advice- vehicle theft

[mr2mike]

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Hah, you think Thats bad? You should try to ask car advice.

@Mar

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Sure, that could be satisfying. but again, what is the lesson? All I see when I read this is Scrooge McDuck dreaming of swimming in the coins of his money vault, while justifying his greed with the term "Teach him a lesson". Now, don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with suing the guy, but as already pointed out, chances of collecting are slim. But again, what is the lesson that is trying to be imparted on mr. criminal here?

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No insurance. The culprit isn’t a car thief of the typical sort- I do know that much. My understanding is there is no past record etc.

I'm not seeing Scrooge McDuck. My take is that many of us are picturing a strung out meth head who has 50+ convictions and would steal change from a poppy bin. Contrast with OP who I'm concerned may be picturing the thief as a straight-laced Morman making their first bad decision in history. One will not receive a lesson and the other would.
To be fair, OP has mentioned the guy doesn't have a criminal record, so the meth-head scenario is unlikely. However, that doesn't automatically mean it's Todd Flanders. The truth is likely in between.

[spikerS]

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I'm not seeing Scrooge McDuck. My take is that many of us are picturing a strung out meth head who has 50+ convictions and would steal change from a poppy bin. Contrast with OP who I'm concerned may be picturing the thief as a straight-laced Morman making their first bad decision in history. One will not receive a lesson and the other would.
To be fair, OP has mentioned the guy doesn't have a criminal record, so the meth-head scenario is unlikely. However, that doesn't automatically mean it's Todd Flanders. The truth is likely in between.

Right. I don't disagree with anything you said, at all. My question still remains though, what lesson is being taught to the probably-not-a-meth-head that isn't being taught already with the legal system the not-ned-flanders isn't learning already?

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Sure, that could be satisfying. but again, what is the lesson? All I see when I read this is Scrooge McDuck dreaming of swimming in the coins of his money vault, while justifying his greed with the term "Teach him a lesson". Now, don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with suing the guy, but as already pointed out, chances of collecting are slim. But again, what is the lesson that is trying to be imparted on mr. criminal here?

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No insurance. The culprit isn’t a car thief of the typical sort- I do know that much. My understanding is there is no past record etc.

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Right. I don't disagree with anything you said, at all. My question still remains though, what lesson is being taught to the probably-not-a-meth-head that isn't being taught already with the legal system the not-ned-flanders isn't learning already?

I'd imagine the theory is that the more ass pain a first time offender is put through, the less likely he is to continue down the path of crime until he's swarming liquor stores with zero actual consequences.
I'm not the OP and I'm not saying it is or isn't the route I'd take. It's just a thought.


Edit- @rage2 see how the multi quote remains stuck on for me in this thread?

[Xtrema]

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Maybe he will learn what?

Craigcd's IRL info and stalk him for paid back.

Especially if thief blame him for whatever goes wrong in his life.

[mr2mike]

Google: When keeping it real goes wrong. Then watch all those episodes.
Laugh and realize, sometimes you gotta check yo self.

[Team_Mclaren]

Can you not waste my money (taxpayer) and waste time in court.... lol

[revelations]

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It will cost me less than 200$. I plan To file in small claims. Maybe he will learn maybe he won’t- I won’t regret not doing it in 5 years.

To file, yes. Then there is also the serving/collection part after judgement. More paperwork and admin fees.

[Mitsu3000gt]

If you have to take any vacation or any time off work to do anything related to this, you also need to add that to your costs. For most people, missing one day of work or burning one day of vacation is probably going to be $400-500 or so which makes it not worth it pretty quickly considering there is essentially zero chance you get any monetary compensation from this.

As I said earlier, my family has 3 separate judgments against 3 separate families, all of them are employed, have cars, furniture, etc. and we will never see a single dime. Some kid or crack head is going to be even less likely to pay up. I can certainly understand your desire for a lesson or revenge, but that's just not going to happen here.

[ExtraSlow]

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It will cost me less than 200$. I plan To file in small claims. Maybe he will learn maybe he won’t- I won’t regret not doing it in 5 years.

Good luck OP. I support you

[Masked Bandit]

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I'm offended by the hostility between you two.
I need a safe space.

Hostility?

You think I'm hostile now, wait 'til you see me tonight

Rep points for the first one to say what movie this is from.

Seriously though, hostility with Spikers would be whatever number is less than zero, he's my fav

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Hostility?

You think I'm hostile now, wait 'til you see me tonight

Rep points for the first one to say what movie this is from.

Seriously though, hostility with Spikers would be whatever number is less than zero, he's my fav

My Cousin Vinny?

[Mitsu3000gt]

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Hostility?

You think I'm hostile now, wait 'til you see me tonight

Rep points for the first one to say what movie this is from.

Seriously though, hostility with Spikers would be whatever number is less than zero, he's my fav

My cousin vinny?


Ah shit he beat me haha.

[revelations]

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Hostility?

You think I'm hostile now, wait 'til you see me tonight

Rep points for the first one to say what movie this is from.

Seriously though, hostility with Spikers would be whatever number is less than zero, he's my fav

Does rep points get me a greater insurance discount? LOL

[jwslam]

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Can you not waste my money (taxpayer) and waste time in court.... lol

Because this is obviously a huge drain on our gov system compared to everything else

[Mar]

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@Mar

The only car advice I sought was whether or not I should pay $30,000 to the Koreans. Would you believe my 60th and final payment on that car is next month?
Things I normally ask for help with are:
- what to do when my roommate stops paying the mortgage.
- how to deal with a disgusting neighbour that smokes outside my door.
- how to fix my furnace
- what's the definition of a shuriken?
- how to get rid of homeless people in my backyard.
- lots of other goldmines

I admit I only read the first post of this thread but I've spent a lot of time in court. What you want to do is go to the Law Information Centre (LINC) at the court house and get a form for suing someone. You can fill it out there or take it home but they can help you with it if you do it there. Once it's all filled out, they'll send you upstairs to the filing clerks where you can file your case and pay $250 plus $10 if you want a photocopy. You serve the individual with the papers, give him notice of the court date and then battle it out in court. Hopefully he doesn't show and you win without saying anything.

Good luck, I caught a guy in the driver seat of my car once. The cops found both guys and charged them, their names were Kenneth J Tillings and Timothy Horton. If you know them, punch them in the head for me.

[nobb]

Our legal system is a pain in the arse but I would recommend you go through once as a learning experience. You can get all the legal work started for small claims court fairly easy but you'll have to find the guy and serve him. Not sure if the police take down his info such as address for you? Deadbeats are known to jump around alot.

Lets say you go through all that and months later you win the case and get a judgement. It's basically a piece of paper that tells you you are owed but the court system does NOTHING to help you collect on it! You can send it to a collection company but all they really do is make generic spam calls or maybe letters to the guy to ask nicely for payment. They take a large cut (up to 50%) because they know the chances of collecting are small. Alternatively you can find where he banks or works and garnish funds/wages that way. Once again more paperwork to do, but it's a satisfying experience. If he doesn't have enough money in the bank, they'll freeze the account of which probably is a minor convenience to the thief but deadbeats are used to it by now. If the guy lacks the conscience to care about breaking into cars, he's really not going to care about whatever slap on the wrist or long term consequences of his actions are.

In summary our legal system is really a joke for these petty crimes and even if you jump through all the hoops to get back at the guy it's usually more of an inconvenience for you that it is for him. But still a good chance to learn how our system works. Good luck and let us know how it goes!

[Masked Bandit]

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My Cousin Vinny?

Here's the winner, I've been offline since mid-last week but TPIM beat everyone else.