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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rural_Juror View Post
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    It's ok when Trump and his family uses mail in ballots then? As well as voting in a state that he is not allowed to vote in.
    Absentee ballot system is not the same as Mass Mail-in Voting

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    Get used to seeing this over the next few weeks:

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    Can someone explain why online isn't an option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
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    Can someone explain why online isn't an option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
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    Can someone explain why online isn't an option?
    It should be, this is exactly where blockchain technology should be used...

    Won't be hacked either vs any other method having potential hackerz..

    Give everyone a unique code who can vote, get a system working and vote, would be the best, safest way but obviously having blockchain used kind of change the way things are handled.

    I don't understand why USA is not doing this to try and be ahead of china or compete with china..

    https://www.coindesk.com/chinas-nati...ange-the-world

    It will be the future and all those corporations will be using it in the future for security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
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    Can someone explain why online isn't an option?
    The republicans are into voter suppression as an election strategy. The more people vote the worse the republicans end up doing. Hence they keep passing laws to make it harder to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportEL View Post
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    Absentee ballot system is not the same as Mass Mail-in Voting
    Yes it is.

    I live in Florida but I'm in New York and can't get to my voting location so I vote via mail.

    My county is overrun with Corona cases and it's not safe to get to my voting location so I vote via mail.

    Please explain what you think the difference is because there is none.


    On a different note:
    Trumps USPS lackey sacked two dozen top officials within USPS even as mail backlog continues to get worse.

    Also Trump claiming he has authority to sign an executive order regarding mail in ballots for November. No explanination on what he means by that but given his constant attacks against it, it's reasonable to guess it would be an attempt to interfere with mail in ballots.

    Republicans continue to do what they do to try and skew the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobe View Post
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    It should be, this is exactly where blockchain technology should be used...

    Won't be hacked either vs any other method having potential hackerz..

    Give everyone a unique code who can vote, get a system working and vote, would be the best, safest way but obviously having blockchain used kind of change the way things are handled.

    I don't understand why USA is not doing this to try and be ahead of china or compete with china..

    https://www.coindesk.com/chinas-nati...ange-the-world

    It will be the future and all those corporations will be using it in the future for security.
    Blockchain only solves transparency, ensuring there are no double votes, count fraud, etc. It does nothing for selling votes, identity fraud, stolen codes. It certainly is one piece of the puzzle for an online voting system, but in no way a ready to use system today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Blockchain only solves transparency, ensuring there are no double votes, count fraud, etc. It does nothing for selling votes, identity fraud, stolen codes. It certainly is one piece of the puzzle for an online voting system, but in no way a ready to use system today.
    Pretty much. There's a significant number of people that don't have computer access. And you'd basically have to mail people a code to log in and vote but imagine how many phishing sites would pop up. The average person is pretty tech illiterate so trying to get them to vote electronically from home is ripe for abuse. Even a national voting app would be a hard sell to roll out to everyone.
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    Idk it just makes sense to have several options, online, mail in and in person but it needs to be done properly

    Also can someone explain voter ID? That's separate than your drivers/general ID? It's to prove you are American or what? Or is that similar to the voter cards we get?

    18 to vote and 21 to drink lol American things definitely don't lower the age to 16
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    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
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    Idk it just makes sense to have several options, online, mail in and in person but it needs to be done properly

    Also can someone explain voter ID? That's separate than your drivers/general ID? It's to prove you are American or what? Or is that similar to the voter cards we get?

    18 to vote and 21 to drink lol American things definitely don't lower the age to 16
    In Alberta if you don't have your voter card you can either vote with government issued picture ID (driver's license or passport) or if you don't have one you can use two non-picture IDs that have name and at least one with a address, for example a bank statement and a healthcare card.

    In the US it's more strict. Half of the states that require voter ID require a government issued photo ID, even if you are already registered to vote. The only options are a driver's license, a state ID, or a passport. For most people this doesn't matter because you probably have one of those but for low income people or many immigrants they may not have a driver's license or passport (fun fact only 40% of Americans have a passport). Many people struggle to get by and if you have no hope of affording a car why would you get a driver's license.

    As a result voter ID laws typically prevent low income and/or some immigrants from voting. Guess which way that demographic of people typically vote? By hindering them it cuts votes more from one side than the other of the political spectrum
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    In Alberta you can vote without any form of ID at all. It's a pain in the ass, but it can be done. Easiest way is to have someone who CAN produce ID vouch for you. There are other methods. Source: I worked at the polls last election.

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    Americas are so afraid of being tracked by the "government" its hilarious.

    A simple fingerprint scan at the poll would solve all the double voting, and ID fraud. Don't like it to any database just collect the scans solely for the purpose of this vote, problem solved.
    Obviously you still need to verify they are a citizen but we have plenty of technology to stop double voting and ID fraud its stupid this is still a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    In Alberta you can vote without any form of ID at all. It's a pain in the ass, but it can be done. Easiest way is to have someone who CAN produce ID vouch for you. There are other methods. Source: I worked at the polls last election.
    I thought UCP scrapped that didn't they? I thought they got rid of vouching for someone. I might be mistaken though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    I thought UCP scrapped that didn't they? I thought they got rid of vouching for someone. I might be mistaken though.
    Must have been after the April 2019 Alberta election. That's the one I worked.

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    Someone told me requiring ID to vote is racist.

    I never heard a good explanation for that that wasn’t pretty racist in and of itself.
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    America is so advanced yet so backwards
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    As someone who does security for a living...you absolutely do not want online voting to be an option. There are massive unsolved problems that have to be resolved before that can be considered. Remember, the democrats can't even secure their email. Don't think the republicans are any better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Blockchain only solves transparency, ensuring there are no double votes, count fraud, etc. It does nothing for selling votes, identity fraud, stolen codes. It certainly is one piece of the puzzle for an online voting system, but in no way a ready to use system today.
    But also can't votes be sold right now? Telling someone to vote and you give them $20 for example...
    If you get the technology to put in your SIN (or whatever they use) with the code it should reduce is about 99%

    If someone can get your SIN + Code to vote then can get your identity and create identity fraud I'm assuming?

    But I agree that with only like 90 days till the vote the system would not be perfected before voting, but then how does it work when you are living overseas and already can vote? I've never done it but I know it's possible in many countries (if not most)

    I think the "Fake" votes would only be like 1% max but that's just an opinion with no facts to back it up.

    We are going to a cashless society I'm assuming sooner or later we all will have to get online voting somehow. I'm not in IT or a blockchain expert I don't know how difficult it would be, but i think they should start working on it for future elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    In Alberta if you don't have your voter card you can either vote with government issued picture ID (driver's license or passport) or if you don't have one you can use two non-picture IDs that have name and at least one with a address, for example a bank statement and a healthcare card.

    In the US it's more strict. Half of the states that require voter ID require a government issued photo ID, even if you are already registered to vote. The only options are a driver's license, a state ID, or a passport. For most people this doesn't matter because you probably have one of those but for low income people or many immigrants they may not have a driver's license or passport (fun fact only 40% of Americans have a passport). Many people struggle to get by and if you have no hope of affording a car why would you get a driver's license.

    As a result voter ID laws typically prevent low income and/or some immigrants from voting. Guess which way that demographic of people typically vote? By hindering them it cuts votes more from one side than the other of the political spectrum
    On the other hand, it also prevents all those dead people and illegals from voting, and guess which way they tend to vote? So maybe it evens things out?

    Such a BS cop out excuse when people try and say that ID laws suppress Dem voters. Those same poor people that you assume want to forever vote for their continued economic distress, also need ID to do virtually everything. You can't even get a job without some type of ID. So pretending like there is so many Dem voters lacking ID that it can swing an election is just pure nonsense. The main demographic of Dem voters without ID is illegals that have no right to vote anyway.

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