Coronavirus vs Investing

[Disoblige]

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Timing the market now isn't any easier than at any other time.

I dare everyone to play this game as it's based on real life. The timeline changes every single time and I find that I lose most of the time.
Really fun though.

https://www.personalfinanceclub.com/...e-market-game/

[Cagare]

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Timing the market now isn't any easier than at any other time.

+1

Thank you!

Learned this in 2008/2009 and in 2018. Missed out on big opportunities waiting for things to go even lower.

[rx7boi]

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Timing the market now isn't any easier than at any other time.

I agree 100%, and that was my point several weeks back. Like I had mentioned, I don't want to judge anyone getting anxious when they see losses (paper or otherwise), but the size of your cojones should be proportionate to the risk that you assessed and are prepared to accept when you decide to buy into an 80/20 fund.

He managed to mitigate a one time loss by selling at break even but that's only half the equation because I don't think he had fully thought out how he was going to get back into the market to capitalize on the downtrend. Hence, I'm just wondering if he had miraculously thrown his lump sum back in at the lowest point, or if he's still holding everything in cash.

Re: me organizing finances, I don't try to time the market. I was simply alluding to being too busy to make my regular monthly contribution as I usually would.

[eblend]

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I am just sincerely wondering about how eblend is doing. We never heard back on what his actual plan was after selling off at break even, just some ideas that he was tossing around about hopefully buying back in slowly, when it's hopefully close to the bottom, or what have you. Technically speaking, he missed out on 12% of gains so far this week. What's a guy to do?

Sorry been super busy working from home, didn't have much time to browse.

For me, I had left 30k in random stocks which were pretty heavily down. When oil crashed I bought into some oil companies (5k into each, which subsequently crashed another 30% after I bought). I also bought into some XGRO a few weeks ago (10k) which is also down still from the point I bought it at. So overall I have 50k in the market, all down, with overall loss as of right now of about 11k. Not too concerned as most of these are heavy dividend payers or possible money makers if things turn around. I was going to buy another 10k of XGRO last Friday but didn't pull the trigger, got too busy and by the time I remembered market closed. Anyways, I don't really have a strategy at the moment. I got about $160k sitting in cash, think I will keep buying on the way down. I don't think we have seen the worst of it yet so not too concerned about the last few days, as we have seen, new records being set every day it seems on ups and downs. I do seem to enjoy buying random stocks vs passive investment, which is very strange for me, perhaps just because I am new at this and it's fun at the moment. So yah, guess my strategy is to buy on the days most people are selling, and I think there will be a few more chances of that in the next few months.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I dare everyone to play this game as it's based on real life. The timeline changes every single time and I find that I lose most of the time.
Really fun though.

https://www.personalfinanceclub.com/...e-market-game/

Timing the market is a bad strategy. That only works for Beerflu and Climate Change Deniers.

[89coupe]

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Probably going to yo-yo for a while. But to be fair, the idea is to purchase BEFORE recovery.

The market hasn’t recovered, not by a long shot. I just try to recognize panic selling and buy on the dips.

[BavarianBeast]

Timing the market has been easy lately. Open your eyes and look around. I’ll put my money back in the market once the US gets their shit under control.

GLTA!

[The_Rural_Juror]

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Timing the market has been easy lately. Open your eyes and look around. I’ll put my money back in the market once the US gets their shit under control.

GLTA!

Ok Anti-Greta.

[rx7boi]

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Sorry been super busy working from home, didn't have much time to browse.

For me, I had left 30k in random stocks which were pretty heavily down. When oil crashed I bought into some oil companies (5k into each, which subsequently crashed another 30% after I bought). I also bought into some XGRO a few weeks ago (10k) which is also down still from the point I bought it at. So overall I have 50k in the market, all down, with overall loss as of right now of about 11k. Not too concerned as most of these are heavy dividend payers or possible money makers if things turn around. I was going to buy another 10k of XGRO last Friday but didn't pull the trigger, got too busy and by the time I remembered market closed. Anyways, I don't really have a strategy at the moment. I got about $160k sitting in cash, think I will keep buying on the way down. I don't think we have seen the worst of it yet so not too concerned about the last few days, as we have seen, new records being set every day it seems on ups and downs. I do seem to enjoy buying random stocks vs passive investment, which is very strange for me, perhaps just because I am new at this and it's fun at the moment. So yah, guess my strategy is to buy on the days most people are selling, and I think there will be a few more chances of that in the next few months.

Ah that's good news. It is definitely rough all around and probably will continue to be for a while. Sitting on cash is better than not having any for sure.

[ickyflex]

PPL has 75% of it's revenues come from Take or Pay contracts.

Frac Spread's aren't necessarily great in today's price environment, but I don't suspect that will be for extended periods of time (2+ years).

The idea behind taking the liquids out of the NG stream is that the 60/30/10 C3/C4/C5 split is worth more than the AECO cost of replacing the NG stream.

I honestly don't think any of the midstream companies are a bad investment on a long term basis. Not sure why everyone is getting into pissing matches about this stuff.

Like who fucking cares who times the bottom if we are talking about long term investments... Someone could have bought the lows at 16 and doubled up in a week.. but is someone who is holding for 20 year and got in at $24 really upset they are only up 35% right now... probably not.

[rx7boi]

As a passive investor, I will say that I'd like to build up my short-term trading skills. I dabbled in $SHOP and made a killing but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeable or a pro.

[ExtraSlow]

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Not sure why everyone is getting into pissing matches about this stuff.

I think we are all pretty close to breaking point from world events. fighting over PPL is the least destructive outlet.

[Disoblige]

When the inevitable crash comes on this artificial prop up, playing SPXS for a quick day trade.
Maybe HXD for Canadian funds.

Fun to get some quick $4-5/share gains on these teen prices. Might as well have free beer/wine/whiskey while working from home.

Got stopped out a few times, but overall been net positive -so far-...

[94boosted]

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Yep its bound to go back down at some point when these companies start releasing results, unless the stock prices are already adjusted for those deficiencies. Or investors will just see it as a 1 off and hold the prices. Very hard to predict what is going to happen, so I just buy quality companies at the price you I am comfortable with and let it ride the waves.

I guess I'm just surprised as to how much of an upswing there is when the US is nowhere near the peak of the shitstorm.

[ercchry]

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I guess I'm just surprised as to how much of an upswing there is when the US is nowhere near the peak of the shitstorm.

That stimulus package was trillions... with a T

[The_Rural_Juror]

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That stimulus package was trillions... with a T

2 Trillions...T.T. It was TTTTTT earlier in the week. Except unemployment reports tomorrow unless states stop publishing them as Trump wants.

[Disoblige]

Us Fed chair Powell just said we might be in a R-word, ouch.
Like saying the forbidden word at Craps.

[Tik-Tok]

R-word? Pretty sure we're heading into a D-word.

[Misterman]

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Timing the market now isn't any easier than at any other time.

Seems like different people have different ideas about what timing the market actually means. To me, timing the market does not mean waiting for the absolute bottom and then getting in. But the market never climbs straight up, you always get dips and bounces on the way up, which open opportunities to time an entry point. And then every 10 years or so you get a massive correction like right now, which is another point that is worth timing an entry. Everything is such a discount now that you don't have to "time" the bottom, just get in and it will be profit within the next few years as we make another ride up towards our next inevitable correction.

[blitz]

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R-word? Pretty sure we're heading into a D-word.

I think the D-word is heading into us.