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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtsniffer View Post
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    https://globalnews.ca/news/6491109/c...draising-2019/


    If they donated $600k that is 2% of the total 2019 donations
    It's $600K for the leadership race alone. That's not small amount of money. 37% of all the money for leadership is from 3 no-name candidates backed by one Ontario based social conservative lobby group.

    Of the overall funding it's been known since the Reform days that the strength in fundraising was large numbers of small donations, which the religious groups and social conservatives are extremely motivated in getting. The irony is that it was Chretien who made the campaign donation changes (and no surprise that Harper twisted the knife by reducing max limits and further restriction union and corporate donations). if these groups can raise $600K to run three nobodys in the leadership race, how motivated do you think they'll be when it comes to running actual candidates? This isn't even the group mad at Scheer for not being socially conservative enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    Where is the logical middle ground?
    The Libertarian party. But nobody will give small parties a chance because we treat this country like a 2 party system. Nobody wants to risk throwing their vote away and allowing the opposing big party to get in again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    The Libertarian party. But nobody will give small parties a chance because we treat this country like a 2 party system. Nobody wants to risk throwing their vote away and allowing the opposing big party to get in again.
    Another reason I heard is that no one is funding the middle ground - the corporations wants low taxes on themselves and the unions want high taxes on corporations.

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    Libertarian would take off - if it wasn't on the super social conservative end of the spectrum. And it'll never recover in the current form from those views.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    Libertarian would take off - if it wasn't on the super social conservative end of the spectrum. And it'll never recover in the current form from those views.
    It's actually not on the social conservative end of the spectrum at all. Not sure where that idea came from? It's completely center on social issues. Do whatever you want, just don't cost the government any money and you can pretend to be whatever made up gender you want.

    Maybe the completely screwed up social stance of the current left has confused people on where center, right, and left, even are?

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    Most libertarian leaning people were supporting things like gay rights long before it became trendy for political parties like the Democrats.

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    Pretty libertarian leaning here myself and everyone I know who thinks the same way is totally supporting of letting people live and let live and have no desire to make windows into people bedrooms.

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    Is it the Alberta libertarian that I'm thinking of then?

    We talked about them in one of the 19 election threads and it was anti abortion, anti gay rights, total opposite of what libertarian means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    Is it the Alberta libertarian that I'm thinking of then?

    We talked about them in one of the 19 election threads and it was anti abortion, anti gay rights, total opposite of what libertarian means.
    Yes you were corrected back in another election thread. Not sure why you are still maintaining this stance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterman View Post
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    Yes you were corrected back in another election thread. Not sure why you are still maintaining this stance?
    I remember being pointed at their election platform (probably was by cam) and wondering wtf they did...

    Now they want to join the Bernier mess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    Now they want to join the Bernier mess...
    Well, Feel the Bern is a much better slogan than Felt by Biden.

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    The Cons would fare far better if they adopted a more centrist approach. Socially liberal, fiscally con.
    You would think McKay will adopt this stance but so far he is tripping himself up in most public appearances.

    From a MSM fake news perspective, Sheer is doing a better than McKay in the last few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Folks who want a breath of fresh air, and a move away from the last 20 years, may like Leslyn Lewis.
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ewis-1.5678715
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Folks who want a breath of fresh air, and a move away from the last 20 years, may like Leslyn Lewis.
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ewis-1.5678715
    'A breath of fresh air for the social conservatives' isn't really what the party needs.

    A Campaign Life Coalition endorsed candidate, on record wanting abortion restrictions, supporting traditional marriage, against climate science, who's only foray into politics had her losing by over 15,000 votes, isn't a breath of fresh air. It's like they don't even know why they lost 'the 905' the last time around. Lisa Raitt gave them the blueprint on why that happened: social issues and climate change. Don't put forward a candidate that is backwards on those issues.

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    Most Canadians don't want a social conservative leader. This is how you lose an election, regardless of the corruption of the other choice.

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