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    Default Cyclist ran red, kill man, fined $1000

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...ilty-1.5482578

    Thought it would have been higher.

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    My job is to impose a penalty for the act, not for the consequences
    What a POS judge, would he also not consider the consequences of the guy was driving a car?

    I hope that line gets read back to him by the Defense in every traffic fatality he presides over in the future.

    Our country turns into more of a circus by the day.
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    That's $1000 more than I would have thought he would get tbh.

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    wait till the civil suit gets filed.

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    I used to live on Richmond road... It could have been me!

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    I don't see anything wrong with the sentence for running a red light. What's the maximum fine for that? Could they not have charged the cyclist with something more severe? careless driving? Yeah he can still be sued and should be IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmira View Post
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    I don't see anything wrong with the sentence for running a red light. What's the maximum fine for that? Could they not have charged the cyclist with something more severe? careless driving? Yeah he can still be sued and should be IMO.
    They dropped the second careless driving charge yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    What a POS judge, would he also not consider the consequences of the guy was driving a car?

    I hope that line gets read back to him by the Defense in every traffic fatality he presides over in the future.

    Our country turns into more of a circus by the day.
    How would you propose that the consequences are taken into account when the maximum penalty has already been levied? Maybe the judge could set themselves up to be overturned on appeal by sending someone to prison for a TSA offense that doesn't carry a prison term.
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    Manslaughter would have been a more appropriate charge to pursue.

    Judge, procescutor, don’t care this is a massive miscarriage of justice. Our judicial system needs to give its head a shake.
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    I don't think many people disagree with you about the outcome so far but I still have hope for the system and it hasn't finished the job yet I don't think.

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    I hope if I ever accidentally kill someone the government lets me buy my way out of it for $1,000 and a sorry note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    What a POS judge, would he also not consider the consequences of the guy was driving a car?
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    I hope if I ever accidentally kill someone the government lets me buy my way out of it for $1,000 and a sorry note.
    Kind of like
    $233 for failing to yield the right of way to a pedestrian for killing a pedestrian in an F-150
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    $2,000 for one count of careless driving for killing 2 pedestrians in a crosswalk in a 4runner?

    I'm not saying the penalties are appropriate in any way... but the sentence seems proportional to the consequence in a motor vehicle.
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    We clearly need to stop giving traffic safety act convictions for what is obviously manslaughter.

    People don’t give a tenth of the respect to driving that they should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtsniffer View Post
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    wait till the civil suit gets filed.
    Yes, fine and law suit are different but isn't this the civil suit? Cause the accident happened July 2018. $1000 for a city fine seems fine, but if this is the civil suit $1000 is a joke cause they should cover future income loss which is probably low since he was retired but should still be a lot more than $1000. But of course we don't know the whole story so who know's.

    A bit late now, but RIP John Kwan

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    Quote Originally Posted by botox View Post
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    Yes, fine and law suit are different but isn't this the civil suit? Cause the accident happened July 2018. $1000 for a city fine seems fine, but if this is the civil suit $1000 is a joke cause they should cover future income loss which is probably low since he was retired but should still be a lot more than $1000. But of course we don't know the whole story so who know's.

    A bit late now, but RIP John Kwan
    This was just the court for the traffic offense itself, the civil suit filed by the family will come next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masked Bandit View Post
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    This was just the court for the traffic offense itself, the civil suit filed by the family will come next.
    Does the homeowner’s policy cover this type of thing or are they on their own?
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    good reminder to double check 2 million liability on house insurance.

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    A quick search for Judge Allan Fradsham shows that there is a trend in the way he likes to rule:

    https://calgarysun.com/news/crime/ev...endants-rights

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ca...om-trespassing

    But what do I know, I'm not in the legal profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rx7boi View Post
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    A quick search for Judge Allan Fradsham shows that there is a trend in the way he likes to rule:
    What way would that be? Imposing what is probably the maximum penalty in this case and tossing evidence gained through a wrongful arrest in another seem like things people would want.

    Or do we now criticize the judge because the prosecutor didn't have the evidence to support a criminal charge?
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