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    There's something awesome about Horner having to go back to Reanult and trying to get them to play ball. At least the engine seems to have been more relaible and improved as of late.

    Max to Mercedes is a no brainer for 2022, regardless of what Lewis does. Would love to see 3 years of them fighting it out, so no one could claim it was a fluke. Gloves off, lets go.

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    Maybe a new engine supplier would go in? I wonder if VAG still has room to play post-Dieselgate.

    They did sell Bugatti to Rimac so maybe there's play money there?


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    The benefit of masks is not known at this time. But we do know it is some non-trivial amount more than zero.

    We also know that the cost of mask use is, essentially, zero.

    So the cost:benefit of mask use is approaching infinity. I'll take that every time. And every time I see someone without a mask, I think they are stupid.

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    Hondas reasons for pulling out sounds a little bit like BS.

    The top tier engine builders are definitely not just abandoning the ICE - but I do see ICE becoming a more 'niche' thing in that some might farm out their ICE engines to a contractor and the number of engine OEMs will drop.


    Honda said the move was a result of the transformation of the car industry away from internal combustion engines.They are pursuing "carbon neutrality by 2050" through "future power-unit and energy technologies, including fuel-cell vehicle and battery technologies".




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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    Hondas reasons for pulling out sounds a little bit like BS.

    The top tier engine builders are definitely not just abandoning the ICE - but I do see ICE becoming a more 'niche' thing in that some might farm out their ICE engines to a contractor and the number of engine OEMs will drop. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    I think you’ll be surprised at how fast ICE will die once electrical energy storage progresses to a state close to gasoline as an energy medium in terms of cost, weight, convenience, etc.
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    I'm thinking about buying tix to the Turkish GP. Where would Beyond sit (without breaking the bank)?

    https://tickets.formula1.com/en/f1-53328-turkey

    I'm thinking Silver 8 or Gold 4 which both look over Turn 8. I can't seem to find any info on where the screens are though... from past F1 races I've always appreciated having a screen visible in order to better follow the action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipstah View Post
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    Maybe a new engine supplier would go in? I wonder if VAG still has room to play post-Dieselgate.

    They did sell Bugatti to Rimac so maybe there's play money there?
    They are actually pondering letting go Ducati and Lambo next. They also want maximum cash for EV push, like Honda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    I think you’ll be surprised at how fast ICE will die once electrical energy storage progresses to a state close to gasoline as an energy medium in terms of cost, weight, convenience, etc.
    Oh I have no doubts that ICE will end up being a niche thing like v12 or v10s are now - only 1-2 OEMs will make ICE engines for cars in say, 20 years?

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    HAM - VER team would be insane. I want it.

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    I'm thinking about buying tix to the Turkish GP. Where would Beyond sit (without breaking the bank)?

    https://tickets.formula1.com/en/f1-53328-turkey

    I'm thinking Silver 8 or Gold 4 which both look over Turn 8. I can't seem to find any info on where the screens are though... from past F1 races I've always appreciated having a screen visible in order to better follow the action.
    Yeah those seem pretty good. Only issue is whether you see around the first turn in Gold 8 or if that chicane is blocked or not. If not, go for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidI View Post
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    I'm thinking about buying tix to the Turkish GP. Where would Beyond sit (without breaking the bank)?

    https://tickets.formula1.com/en/f1-53328-turkey

    I'm thinking Silver 8 or Gold 4 which both look over Turn 8. I can't seem to find any info on where the screens are though... from past F1 races I've always appreciated having a screen visible in order to better follow the action.
    Hope you didn't buy tickets yet. They just cancelled fans for the race.
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    Hope you didn't buy tickets yet. They just cancelled fans for the race.
    Nah, I hadn't bought yet. I've had dozens of plans ruined due to COVID so I was going to wait until the first week of November to buy. I wonder if the people who did buy will receive refunds?

    Now I'm not even sure if I'll go to Turkey...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidI View Post
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    Nah, I hadn't bought yet. I've had dozens of plans ruined due to COVID so I was going to wait until the first week of November to buy. I wonder if the people who did buy will receive refunds?

    Now I'm not even sure if I'll go to Turkey...
    I have a friend still waiting for his Canadian GP refund haha.
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    This is a spicy rumor. Not sure how much weight to put behind it though.
    https://twitter.com/MissedApexF1/sta...06160792440832
    Missed Apex understands that Horner and Marko are in Austria to meet with Mateschitz. the aim of the meeting is to get a sign off on the finance to buy the Honda engine IP

    Talk of it being badged as Mugen who are already based in Milton Keynes

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    That actually sounds somewhat reasonable, if they have the cash.

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    I think I heard they are keeping the same power unit design till 2026, hard to say if it’s better than the Renault though.
    Mercedes power red bull...... interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
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    I think I heard they are keeping the same power unit design till 2026, hard to say if it’s better than the Renault though.
    Mercedes power red bull...... interesting.
    Won't happen. Mercedes isn't going to willingly supply them, and Renault would take on the responsibility of supplying them, as they are the engine builder with the fewest customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by npham View Post
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    Won't happen. Mercedes isn't going to willingly supply them, and Renault would take on the responsibility of supplying them, as they are the engine builder with the fewest customers.
    Honda had mentioned part of the rational for leaving was to free up cash but also engineering resources.

    The value of the team moving forward is not the drawings and facility in my mind but the engineering might so not sure it makes sense to purchase the engine from Honda unless maybe Andy Cowell is looking...

    If I was Marko/Horner my move would be to outwardly commit to leaving unless supplied by Mercedes knowing that Renault has to supply them if they wanted.

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    Get your VPN clients ready.....

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...sxum7D7mW.html

    May be Youtube can stream better than F1TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Get your VPN clients ready.....

    https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/a...sxum7D7mW.html

    May be Youtube can stream better than F1TV.
    Saw something that it is zero commentary or german commentary is the only thing. Since it is at 6:10 this weekend, I might just sleep in and watch the F1TV after. They have no spoilers on the main page I found after doing the same for russia.

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    Tattoo time.
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    Thank god for the retirements and the cold weather, otherwise that would have been a snooze of a race. I wonder what Ricciardo is going to pick...honey badger in lederhosen?

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