If there was a provincial election held today...

[A790]

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AB party for sure.

Not perfect, but not the UCP and not the NDP.

Voted AB last time. I'd love to do it again but they need to get their shit together.

[revelations]

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Voted AB last time. I'd love to do it again but they need to get their shit together.

If they can do fiscally con and socially lib - that would be a win/win.

[Xtrema]

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If they can do fiscally con and socially lib - that would be a win/win.

If I recall, that's what they stand for but bench strength is weak.

Ok, I off the UCP train again when they go over Dee's head on this "public health order".

https://www.alaskahighwaynews.ca/alb...vid-1.24138786

[ThePenIsMightier]

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AB party for sure.

Not perfect, but not the UCP and not the NDP. I cannot stand career politicians like Kenney or Notley - they come with their own baggage.

And yet you don't see that in their leader, Mandel??! He was the Mayor of Edmonton for like 3 terms and likely a Councillor before that. He was then appointed (not elected) fucking appointed to a fucking cabinet position by Jimmy Prentice and since that massive failure was elected leader of the Alberta Party but couldn't even win his own seat in his own city.
That's decades of politics. It's not like he's a hipster millennial with 80% of a Poli-Sci degree.

[Thaco]

so it's a minority UCP?

right now i am anybody but Kenney, if UCP got a competent leader i'd consider it, they need some fresh blood.

[Mitsu3000gt]

It barely even matters IMO. Without change at the Federal level, not much is going to move the needle.

Whoever seems most supportive of O&G and also actually has a chance of winning (this right here rules out all but 2 parties every time) gets my vote.

What I don't like about the UCP is Kenney, he is a nightmare, so if we got a new leader I think that would be a step in the right direction.

I wanted to vote AB party, but their chance of winning a meaningful amount of seats was zero so I voted UCP.

[Thaco]

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It barely even matters IMO. Without change at the Federal level, not much is going to move the needle.

Whoever seems most supportive of O&G and also actually has a chance of winning (this right here rules out all but 2 parties every time) gets my vote.

What I don't like about the UCP is Kenney, he is a nightmare, so if we got a new leader I think that would be a step in the right direction.

I wanted to vote AB party, but their chance of winning a meaningful amount of seats was zero so I voted UCP.

Even federally, the race is a yawn, Scheer wont give up his spot even though he's not running, and the only 2 that are even a consideration are so boringly similar it's not even worth following...

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And yet you don't see that in their leader, Mandel??! He was the Mayor of Edmonton for like 3 terms and likely a Councillor before that. He was then appointed (not elected) fucking appointed to a fucking cabinet position by Jimmy Prentice and since that massive failure was elected leader of the Alberta Party but couldn't even win his own seat in his own city.
That's decades of politics. It's not like he's a hipster millennial with 80% of a Poli-Sci degree.

Yikes - yea not ideal, but lesser evil than the two others.

[lasimmon]

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Even federally, the race is a yawn, Scheer wont give up his spot even though he's not running, and the only 2 that are even a consideration are so boringly similar it's not even worth following...

Not only that, none of the people running for leadership have a chance of actually winning an election.

[A790]

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Whoever seems most supportive of O&G and also actually has a chance of winning (this right here rules out all but 2 parties every time) gets my vote.

I want a government supportive of industry and business. I want the government to also remain pragmatic and practical in its approach re: the environment, public health, and so on.

And I don't want the government favoring any one industry or business. Especially ones with obvious shelf lives.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Yikes - yea not ideal, but lesser evil than the two others.

Yes, as much as I just panned him to counter your inaccuracy about "career politician" I also voted for him in the most recent election. I was genuinely shocked that they did so poorly.
My guess was that UCP would thoroughly win, but, the pendulum swinging from so far left to so far right would make the Alberta Party extremely attractive in the next election. To me, that's out the window since they couldn't even hold existing seats (actually got smoked in even those) but it sounded rational, at the time.

[sabad66]

The last provincial election felt like a two party election so I think that’s why AB party didn’t do so well. next time they will win a seat or two

[sexualbanana]

Just out of curiousity, is the No-NDP movement mostly about Notley or the party as a whole?

[Thaco]

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The last provincial election felt like a two party election so I think that’s why AB party didn’t do so well. next time they will win a seat or two

the last provincial was just a "get NDP out" and UCP was the only way to do it.

[sabad66]

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the last provincial was just a "get NDP out" and UCP was the only way to do it.

Yeah that’s a better way to put it. A lot of people who would have voted AB party went with UCP just to get NDP out. Now that ndp is out, next election I think those same people will go AB party

[ExtraSlow]

Remeber when people voted ndp to get the old PC out? Ah those were the good old days.

[revelations]

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Just out of curiousity, is the No-NDP movement mostly about Notley or the party as a whole?

Notley herself is actually not that bad as far as pragmatism (for the NDP) but to me, having lived in BC through the 90s - the party itself is a joke. The old union guard still reigns.

However how she tried to 'optically' cuddle up to Trudeau was pretty sad - and then failed in the end anyway.

[arcticcat522]

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Yeah that’s a better way to put it. A lot of people who would have voted AB party went with UCP just to get NDP out. Now that ndp is out, next election I think those same people will go AB party

This seems accurate to me. I, like many, voted UCP with the desire to vote AB party.

[Misterman]

It's painful that we even have to vote when this is the fuck show that we are stuck choosing between. As virtually everyone(Most don't realize it though), I would like to vote for Libertarians. But we are stuck with this strategic voting nightmare which gives us no choice but to vote for UCP so that NDP or Libs don't get in.

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Just out of curiousity, is the No-NDP movement mostly about Notley or the party as a whole?

For me it's their base ideology. So yes, party as a whole you could say.

[The_Penguin]

Yeah, Kenney is more than disappointing.
I'd like to see Ric McIver lead the UCP. Then they'd have my full support.