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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    If E' was out by Leduc (or any rural area tbh), he would have gotten nailed. Gotta keep up with that sweet, sweet revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    People say to me regularly: "You have no idea what it is like to be hated because of the color of your skin."

    uh...I'm a 40 year old white male with some extra cash. Nobody is hated more.
    Or as Chris Rock would say:The people with the most shit gets to say the least shit, the people with the least shit gets to say the most shit, so if you want to say more shit, get rid of some of your shit.

    Nowadays it seems like the more victim groups you belong is better. It's weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Post of the year, for all the wrong reasons.
    I'll walk back the "hated" bit because it's probably too polarizing. Let's say the "focus of people who are aggrieved".

    Let's go through it:

    Aggrieved women: "must be the patriarchy"
    Aggrieved black people: "must be the 'system/institutions' racism - ie white people"
    Aggrieved poor people: "must be the people with money"
    Aggrieved young people: "must be the 40 somethings"
    Aggrieved indigeneous people: ...hell they just call the White Man out by name.

    Anyway...who fits in every category of that Venn Diagram?

    Do you think the rioters in Minnesota are pissed at Indo-Americans running the 7-11? Or the Mexican fruit pickers? The Filipino cleaning lady?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    White men get to join the party that people of colour and women have been a part of since the beginning:

    'Guess they had to fill the quota', 'affirmative action in action', 'looks like somebody slept their way to a promotion,' etc.
    Maybe if they didn’t get positions based on quotas and overt racism/sexism, people would stop saying that. But some people are naive and don’t understand that tokenism is actually a thing that happens, especially in tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vengie View Post
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    Do you believe companies/ governments/ organization should ensure a certain % of each demographic?
    Or should they hire based on qualifications no matter what colour, race, sexual preference etc etc. Is?

    Which is more sustainable?
    I'll have to answer this deflection with another:

    Do you think every white man hired by a company/government/organization was the most qualified and got there solely through hard work and effort, and that no woman or person of colour was? Because otherwise, you're kind of proving the point.

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    Maybe if they didn’t get positions based on quotas and overt racism/sexism, people would stop saying that. But some people are naive and don’t understand that tokenism is actually a thing that happens, especially in tech.
    And no white man has gotten a position because of nepotism, or through a connection at their all-white country club, frat buddies, etc.

    Because of the few, everybody's qualifications get questioned. vengie painted it as something white people have to deal with, as if it isn't something women or people of colour haven't had to deal with for decades/centuries.
    It's all so "woe is me."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    I'll walk back the "hated" bit because it's probably too polarizing. Let's say the "focus of people who are aggrieved".

    Let's go through it:

    Aggrieved women: "must be the patriarchy"
    Aggrieved black people: "must be the 'system/institutions' racism - ie white people"
    Aggrieved poor people: "must be the people with money"
    Aggrieved young people: "must be the 40 somethings"
    Aggrieved indigeneous people: ...hell they just call the White Man out by name.

    Anyway...who fits in every category of that Venn Diagram?

    Do you think the rioters in Minnesota are pissed at Indo-Americans running the 7-11? Or the Mexican fruit pickers? The Filipino cleaning lady?
    I think the amount of "hatred" white males receive is non-zero and I'm know it's possible to find example of where a white male was disadvantaged because of it. However, that's pretty rare and a small part of the lived experience of that demographic compared to the amount harmful actions taken by white males against other groups. I, as a white male, think that white males have it MUCH easier than other groups and frankly, as a group, have earned a certain amount of blowback.

    In an ideal world, we could reset the clock to today, and each be judged by our individual actions. But that's not the world we live in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kertejud2 View Post
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    I'll have to answer this deflection with another:
    And no white man has gotten a position because of nepotism, or through a connection at their all-white country club, frat buddies, etc.
    Haha. I expected better from you. Come on.

    And no, nobody is saying they're a victim. You knew that though, you're just out of bullshit rhetoric, so you keep going back to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    I think the amount of "hatred" white males receive is non-zero and I'm know it's possible to find example of where a white male was disadvantaged because of it. However, that's pretty rare and a small part of the lived experience of that demographic compared to the amount harmful actions taken by white males against other groups. I, as a white male, think that white males have it MUCH easier than other groups and frankly, as a group, have earned a certain amount of blowback.

    In an ideal world, we could reset the clock to today, and each be judged by our individual actions. But that's not the world we live in.
    I never made the claim about being disadvantaged. You can be the target of blame/hatred/acrimony without it having a negative impact - unless these things keep you up at night.

    My comment was that white middle aged males with cash lie at the bottom of the blame pile and are frequently hated because of it. If you think white males deserve "blowback" by having a history of abusing their privilege, do you think black males as a group deserve blowback for being part of a group that commits proportionally more crime? Logic doesn't work if you apply it selectively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    I think the amount of "hatred" white males receive is non-zero and I'm know it's possible to find example of where a white male was disadvantaged because of it. However, that's pretty rare and a small part of the lived experience of that demographic compared to the amount harmful actions taken by white males against other groups. I, as a white male, think that white males have it MUCH easier than other groups and frankly, as a group, have earned a certain amount of blowback.
    What did I personally do to deserve blowback? Be specific.

    Nothing worse than a self-hating guy adopting this oppressor bullshit. It's sickening.

    I am not going to apologize or accept any bullshit from somebody whose ancestors were mistreated by some totally unrelated guy who I had nothing to do with, and no one in my family had anything to do with, but maybe had a vaguely similar pigment as I did.

    My folks were exterminated in a genocide, so just get the fuck out of here with that noise. And no, that doesn't make me a victim in any way. And no, some random Russian does not owe me reparations or anything else. I had nothing to do with it and neither did they. Identity politics is bullshit, I know it, you know it, so stop accepting it.

    Either we are racist or we are not, you gotta pick one. If you want to be racist, I'm not going to cry about it, but I want us to call it what it is. We are in no way a "group" unless you're a racist.

    Edit: I don't really mean to direct this at you personally, you seem alright, but this is my unfiltered view on things.

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    Someone TL;DR for me what the best race for me to identify with is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rural_Juror View Post
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    Someone TL;DR for me what the best race for me to identify with is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Ronny Cheung said it’s definitely the Asians.
    That's if I don't want to have any chance with Asian women. They only like white guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Rural_Juror View Post
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    That's if I don't want to have any chance with Asian women. They only like white guys.
    Only way to get rid of racism. Let's all mix it together lol

    I'm doing my part by only sleeping with white girls.
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    With all the mixing over the next 100 years, definitely something 'beigy'. Except for Icelanders and Scandinavians, they only sleep with their cousins. Their beautiful, beautiful cousins.

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    Mostly, the only disadvantage to being Asian is seeing white boys like @killramos spell our last names incorrectly

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    Quote Originally Posted by rx7boi View Post
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    Mostly, the only disadvantage to being Asian is seeing white boys like @killramos spell our last names incorrectly
    Aren’t your last names your first names? I’m confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by googe View Post
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    You knew that though, you're just out of bullshit rhetoric, so you keep going back to that.
    vengie equated having your abilities and position questioned to people 'clutching their purse when you approach.' As if this was a comparable experience. As if it wasn't the same experience women and POC also don't deal with.


    You've gone from

    "Maybe if they didn’t get positions based on quotas and overt racism/sexism, people would stop saying that."

    to

    "What did I personally do to deserve blowback? Be specific."

    Are you for real? You're go from justifying such broad generalizations, to demanding to be treated on your own merits. Can you not see the irony?

    Also:

    but I want us to call it what it is. We are in no way a "group" unless you're a racist.
    I guess it's only racist if "they" put you in a group?

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Aren’t your last names your first names? I’m confused.
    I lol'd

    Can confirm that same feeling when I talk to a white person named "Frank Ryan."

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