Black Lives Matter discussion

[ZenOps]

Well, Galen Weston being a $10 Billionaire by redistributing food has always been an irk. Sure, make *some* money but to actually amass that much from a populace (many of whom were never offered the opportunity to own food producing land, I'm talking about non-whites) never really seemed fair, to the point of being completely lopsided.

Chinese: Head tax just to enter country: Ownership of land? No.
Japanese: Land confiscation WWII even if full Canadian citizenship.
White people: Free land on homesteading titles.
Black people: Land ownership impossible, they don't even own their own person.
Native people: Lose pretty much all land at gunpoint, or smallpox infected blanket.





Buzz only got national recognition and fame (and willing pussy for five years and not thirty), poor poor white man.

When a Chinese person goes to NASA they simply say "No" at the door. Its all legally binding, because of course there are not enough disenting voices to allow a "yes" you can have equal chance at all that sweet sweet freshly printed money from the US government. This is the year 2020. Defund NASA (lucky I don't say Nuke NASA)

Just a viewpoint. Not going to push too hard, knowing that if I get a tan and become darker - then someone might be stepping on my neck.

[duaner]

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Well, Galen Weston being a $10 Billionaire by redistributing food has always been an irk. Sure, make *some* money but to actually amass that much from a populace (many of whom were never offered the opportunity to own food producing land, I'm talking about non-whites) never really seemed fair, to the point of being completely lopsided.

Chinese: Head tax just to enter country: Ownership of land? No.
Japanese: Land confiscation WWII even if full Canadian citizenship.
White people: Free land on homesteading titles.
Black people: Land ownership impossible, they don't even own their own person.
Native people: Lose pretty much all land at gunpoint, or smallpox infected blanket.

What are you trying to say with all of this? These are all very different points in history with very different contexts. Comparing them all as though comparing apples to apples really doesn't make sense.

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Buzz only got national recognition and fame (and willing pussy for five years and not thirty), poor poor white man.

Only Buzz knows what Buzz was actually compensated over the long term.

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When a Chinese person goes to NASA they simply say "No" at the door. Its all legally binding, because of course there are not enough disenting voices to allow a "yes" you can have equal chance at all that sweet sweet freshly printed money from the US government. This is the year 2020. Defund NASA (lucky I don't say Nuke NASA)

You a flat-earther by any chance? And, yet, Asian populations typically are doing better socioeconomically than whites, iirc. Perhaps there is something else going on at NASA, like trying to protect technological secrets. Not everything is racist. China does seem to have a history after all...

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Not going to push too hard, knowing that if I get a tan and become darker - then someone might be stepping on my neck.

Why would someone step on a tanned person's neck?

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The data show that "blacks" that are immigrants, especially from the west indies/caribbean show significantly improved outcomes over blacks born and raised in the US when it comes to improving education, improving wealth accumulation, climbing the socio-economic ladder, etc.

If the system is setup to punish black people through systemic racism, how does that same system select for some black people but not all black people?

Is there Asian privilege? Do White ppl like Asians more than the other races? For sure, they like the women right? lol

Still don't see many Asian dudes kissing them white girls other than Glen and Maggie on Walking Dead.

[dirtsniffer]

First time I have come across an article discussing critical race theory.

The Post Millennial: Education council accuses white member of 'racist behaviour' for holding a black baby on his lap.
https://thepostmillennial.com/educat...aby-on-his-lap

[Power_Of_Rotary]

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What are you trying to say with all of this? These are all very different points in history with very different contexts. Comparing them all as though comparing apples to apples really doesn't make sense.



Only Buzz knows what Buzz was actually compensated over the long term.



You a flat-earther by any chance? And, yet, Asian populations typically are doing better socioeconomically than whites, iirc. Perhaps there is something else going on at NASA, like trying to protect technological secrets. Not everything is racist. China does seem to have a history after all...



Why would someone step on a tanned person's neck?

I see where zenops is coming from. But it isnt a strong argument for Today. All Zenops is validating is that humans are selfish, greedy and evil. Just a matter of how and to what extent.

I am of Asian descent, but I accept the fact that certain nationals from other countries may be deemed a threat and rejected of a job or opportunities. Its tough nuggets for those who are struggling to improve their living situations but that is life. It is also the same reason why we have sanctions on entities and anyone related to those entities. Sure it may not be fair, but no one can draw a fine enough line to determine the bare minimum bar. If one is to complain, complain to the entity/gov that is deemed a threat resulting in unfair treatment at citizen level.

[ZenOps]

You can actually look up what Buzz was paid, if he was given standard military pay at the time (and he is not lying about it, which is not agiven). Around $7,000 US per year, which was a decent wage back then. Nothing great, but you could live on it and be able to eventually buy a house for sure. That he could not afford gas, well - everyone back then hitched rides, it was just a thing that culture did (along with sharing bongs, like the hippies in Woodstock)

The problem I have with grocery prices is that it outpaces inflation. HDTV's get bigger, better quality, and cheaper every year - because of competition, improvement in technologies, and efficiency. Wireless communication get ridiculously faster every year, and also cheaper (for same amount of raw data) as long as they allow competition.

The quality of food is going the shitter, costs more, and is harder to get. Is the plan to starve native people instead of using blankets? Because its starting to look that way.

If the Westons were efficient and took only a mild pay increase each year (One billionaire instead of Ten billionaire) would groceries be priced like HDTV's? Its the same argument I have against NASA, its only gotten less competent (can't even meet previous achievements) costs more, no Asians allowed, and Buzz.

I will say: White people tend to not understand exponential math, especially when it comes to money. Why was bitcoin $19,000? Because the US dollar is an exponentially depreciating currency, more than Bitcoin actually being all that popular. Chinese people have to understand exponential math, because they can't get free government money from organizations like NASA, or cheese producing subsidies.

More cheese, of better quality for cheaper every year? Impossible because its not a HDTV? Why? Can I blame the French?

As for pure white black comparison, as of 2020 if you make about $41,000 US you might be able to slowly grow your net worth at a pace of $2,000 per year. If you make $71,000 you might be able to grow your net worth at a rate of $32,000 per year. The rest goes to food, shelter and the other expenses of life.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/polit...ity/index.html

[ZenOps]

The most shocking thing to me about that Buzz interview was how he complained that he could not afford gas. Later boomer and Gen X had a very different view on gasoline (weekend trips to Cabo, every weekend to hit the beach - no problem). Gen Z appears to be moving back to Buzz like thinking on gas pricing.

[ZenOps]

Thing is, you don't *have* to take it anymore. If you want to be paid in something other than US dollars, then its actually doable. It was completely 100% not doable when I was a youngun. You could probably do your entire life on Amazon credit now. Never have to set foot in a "bank" of your countries origin either. Does amazon bow to the USA, pay a single tax dollar to the USA? Hell no.

In many ways, this new digital world allows incredible freedom from those who were "oppressed" under a system - lets say - that only hired white people, or gave white people double pay, or males double pay, or for whatever reason of financial inequality.. US dollar actually sucks for pretty much everyone who isn't white and male (with exception of Arabian royalty). I have no doubt that NASA will ever pay a Chinese person in the next decade, which means US dollars from NASA are worthless in several different ways.

And whos fault is that really? I'm not the one who made the stupid ass laws that are completely non-progressive and non-productive. I can't spend what you make it illegal for me to obtain.

US dollar kinda sucks donkey nuts. The only thing you can buy with it is a fighter jet for $80 million that may or may not fall in the ocean spontaneously. Maybe a combustion engine car that will be obsolete in a few years, if you can find parts for it. Or give it to build a Casino that goes bankrupt four times.

The one thing that the US dollar still has going for it, is that black people in the USA still think its worth something. Which means its good as a method of control as well as a means of keeping the labor force working (even if 1/3 slave labour through the penal system)



I'm the sort of person who would tell a black man that eating fried chicken every day, is a really unhealthy lifestyle. Contradicting someones beliefs can be an extremely difficult process. Had to pull teeth to get people to buy into Google instead of Ford a decade ago.

[zipdoa]

Helen Pluckrose does an incredible job of digesting the root belief systems behind postmodernism and the fallacies that have been born as a result. Very insightful and contextually explains how social justice evolved into its current format.

[duaner]

The virtue-signalling isn't going to stop, even if it means the police will have no vehicles to drive:

"Throughout history, the vehicles that Ford employees design and build have been used as accessories to police brutality and oppression," workers wrote in a letter to Ford CEO Jim Hackett and Chairman Bill Ford, according to Jalopnik. "We know that while many join, support or supply law enforcement with good intentions, these racist policing practices that plague our society are historic and systemic -- a history and system perpetuated by Ford for over 70 years -- ever since Ford introduced the first-ever police package in 1950. As an undeniable part of that history and system, we are long overdue to 'think and act differently' on our role in racism."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news...Q94?li=AAggNb9

[FraserB]

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The virtue-signalling isn't going to stop, even if it means the police will have no vehicles to drive:



https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news...Q94?li=AAggNb9

Maybe the employees should put their money where their mouth is and quit. If you follow their logic, they are complicit in helping the police undertake their racist actions and just as guilty as Ford.

[duaner]

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Maybe the employees should put their money where their mouth is and quit. If you follow their logic, they are complicit in helping the police undertake their racist actions and just as guilty as Ford.

Don't go bringing logic into the discussion. I'm pretty sure its racist and needs to be thrown out with the white trash, as it seems to be completely missing from all the current anti-racism activism.

That is a great point. Of course, it's everyone else's fault, at least all the employed white people's fault. It would be interesting to see how employees of different "races" would respond if confronted with that obvious logic.

[lilmira]

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Helen Pluckrose does an incredible job of digesting the root belief systems behind postmodernism and the fallacies that have been born as a result. Very insightful and contextually explains how social justice evolved into its current format.

I just started digging about post modernism. I dunno, it sounds great if you are on drugs.

[ZenOps]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/09/u...ase-names.html

Renaming military bases coming back in style again. Don't know how many times it needs to be said, but half the USA fought and killed to keep slavery a thing. Should it be forgotten history? Should it be celebrated in bronze as a statue, or the name of a military base? So far its been ok.

China tore down its statues of questionable figures, and went full denouncement of history (which is arguably just as bad as the USA history at certain points in time)

[ZenOps]

Well. Probably time to call it over. Unless Kanye gets in, you can pretty much just wait until the next unwarranted beating death before it cycles through again with absolutely nothing changing.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Well. Probably time to call it over. Unless Kanye gets in, you can pretty much just wait until the next unwarranted beating death before it cycles through again with absolutely nothing changing.

You mean until the officer is acquitted because the perp was full of drugs including fentanyl. That'll be some Rodney King Part 2&3 combined kind of shit.
I enjoy complaining about things, but holy fuck, am I ever glad I'm not an American.

[ZenOps]

Thing is if true: Fentanyl should have made it easier to arrest easily. PCP is the one that you have to shoot the perp six times and still might not make it out alive.

Cops should know by now that you don't get extra points for barely conscious/barely breathing arrests.

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Has Breonna Taylor been mentioned in this thread yet? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooti...Breonna_Taylor

[dirtsniffer]

how in the fuck was there a no knock search warrant issued in those circumstances? And then to execute it after midnight? Jesus that's fucked up.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

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You mean until the officer is acquitted because the perp was full of drugs including fentanyl. That'll be some Rodney King Part 2&3 combined kind of shit.
I enjoy complaining about things, but holy fuck, am I ever glad I'm not an American.

It's more likely than you may think.

https://medium.com/@gavrilodavid/why...ge-2e2ad8d0911

Long read, but it goes into a fair amount of detail on why it's entirely possible Chauvin will be acquitted on the murder charge.