Black Lives Matter discussion

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Correct, that’s how wars are fought and spoilers go to the victors. The white settlers literally built North American civilization out of nothing, how much longer must “we” pay back reparations to people that were ill treated hundreds of years ago? The madness must end and we need to move on. Giving people special status because their relatives a long long time ago were mistreated is racist in itself. THAT is being born to privilege.

We didn't fight a war. We signed treaties. Canada's actions since that time have had lots of things to be ashamed of, things that have had a generational impact to the FN.

I think it's more "chicken shit" to not acknowledge this. A one time payment is not the way to fix these types of problems. It's a long path, but a good place to start is to stop being such an asshole.

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Most are not. The younger they are they less they care. Chinks and Gweilo has fly over poker table all the time with my friends. We don't care.

The problem I see is I can see it being undone slowly tho as people can't distinguish China vs Chinese.

idk it’s pretty easy to tell a quick conversation and it’s pretty easy.

I dunno how many China Chinese start a convo with yo wassup bro lol

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I am probably misunderstanding but this statement seems a tad contradictory.

I think I'm misunderstanding your misunderstanding. My beef everytime someone brings up "the last one closed in 96" is that it perpetuates the myth that Residential Schools and all the child rapity-rape were proceeding at full speed with no end in sight until a magic date in 1996. Like as if children were being stolen from reserves, en masse and entering an organized rape facility like they were on a conveyor belt at a slaughterhouse in 1996 society. It's extremely inaccurate and very offensive to suggest that "we" were doing this in 1996.
The reality is that nearly all of them were closed decades before 1996. And, the one that remained open in the early 90's was not following the same alleged atrocities that occurred decades earlier. It was well known in the 90's that everything "white people" have ever done to, for, or with Indians was based on pure evil and genocidal intents.
It was part of the school curriculum and likely still is.

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If I can just unpack this a little bit, you seem to be saying that residential schools were not nearly as bad as people sometimes make them out to be and that the original intent behind them was not evil. That's fair but it's not the intent behind an idea that makes it inherently good or bad. As the saying goes, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." There are many things people did in the past that had the opposite effect to their best intentions and I'm sure you'd agree that residential schools overall had a long-term detrimental effect on indigenous communities. So I think the main reason that date is brought up so often is simply to illustrate that it wasn't so long ago, usually in response to people who say something to the effect of "it was a long time ago, get over it." It was barely a generation ago and there are plenty of people around who remember it, just like there are many black people who still remember Jim Crow laws in the southern US. Now if you are either black or native then I apologize for being presumptuous but if you aren't, then it's unlikely that you have lived the experience of someone from a disenfranchised community.

So well said. This is a nice debate about a landmine issue.
I am neither black nor native; but, I don't see how that should magically qualify my opinion to be suddenly more validated. I mean for nothing in my post to indicate my feelings about the intentions of Residential Schools. I have some opinions about that, but there's nothing here about that and it's not the derailed subject at hand. I do not doubt that many horrible atrocities occurred in these facilities and you are correct that it has had a detrimental effect on our Indigenous folks.
My issue is that date. As I mentioned, that date is brought up for the sole purpose of perpetuating a myth.
They closed when they closed and that's a fact. I don't care when the last single one closed, I care when the other 99.5% of them closed, and that certainly wasn't 1996. It's not up to us to spin "when they closed" into constantly referring to 1996 to avoid morons in society from going "well that was a long time ago". That's not fair and fairness is the path we need to be walking down to help generate some more equitable situations for our Indians.

Like mentioned above, I'm not black or indigenous. I am "white" which is a fictional ethnic group. While I enjoy many advantages simply due to my birth colour, I really resent the unfairness of my imaginary ethnic group being lumped together with other people of perceived similar colour who my actual ethnic group may literally be enemies with and certainly not "teammates". Not one person from my ethnic group or family had arrived in Canada during the initial colonization. But because I'm perceived as the same colour as those alleged oppressors, I'm painted with that brush.
I'm not those people and it's racist to say I am. That's not helping bridge this gap.

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Petition underway to rename Columbus, Ohio, 'Flavortown' as city removes Christopher Columbus statue

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...olumbus-statue



Yes, let's rename it after a shitty chef catch phrase.

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I'd visit flavortown.

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I'd visit flavortown.

I'd watch Zombieland 3 with Tallahassee and Flavortown

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Which is more likely:

1. Every government in the last 3 or 4 decades has never thought of this or enjoys giving out way more money than they have to. I’m sure you would make the argument that Trudeau is a big old super cuck gobbling up every dick he sees, pissing on white Canadians for fun. But what happened with the conservatives when they were in power? Cuckery from them too? Are you and a few other beyonders simply smarter than anyone that has ever been a part of the Conservative party?
2. Between the mountain of lawsuits for various abuses and hundreds of years of land treaties, the government has done the math and realized it’s cheaper to keep giving them what they are now than to pay out a settlement to legally close the door on any potential claims?

Any government that's been in power since the dawn of time doesn't want to touch that political football. If COVID has taught us anything, Canada will just print more funny money and shovel it into a failed FN reserve system. At some point though the taps need to be turned off, this isn't sustainable for anyone going forward. I'm sick of this shit government apologising for something that happened to people who've been dead for decades. The people responsible for the genocides are dead, this isn't our burden to carry forever. Move on.

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We didn't fight a war. We signed treaties. Canada's actions since that time have had lots of things to be ashamed of, things that have had a generational impact to the FN.
I think it's more "chicken shit" to not acknowledge this. A one time payment is not the way to fix these types of problems. It's a long path, but a good place to start is to stop being such an asshole.

There were wars all over what is now Canada and the US, the settlers won and we now have governments and legal borders. We can't go back in history and reconcile every war ever fought in the world, that's just inconceivable.

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I really hope I find a nice girl. I just wanna settle down now.

Awwwe... but then I lose so much entertainment when some girl on Instagram is all “I’m independent, self care, blah, blah (insert other basic bitch things)” then I see Mr. Boost has liked their post

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I think Mongolia owes Asia some reparations over that whole Genghis Khan situation.

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Awwwe... but then I lose so much entertainment when some girl on Instagram is all “I’m independent, self care, blah, blah (insert other basic bitch things)” then I see Mr. Boost has liked their post

Holy fk I LOL'd hard. Thanks bro.

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I think Mongolia owes Asia some reparations over that whole Genghis Khan situation.

Dang this was exactly what I was thinking lol

History is fked. We know that. Every society has done some real dirty shit, held slaves, suppressed people etc. I would say NA is the best of the worst. It's not perfect but I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. As a refugee immigrant, I made it, so you can too. Idk.

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Watching these dopey socialist/marxist protestors really affirms the view that capitalists really should be running things.

As far as I can tell, these guys want the Loser Class to run things.

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Watching these dopey socialist/marxist protestors really affirms the view that capitalists really should be running things.

As far as I can tell, these guys want the Loser Class to run things.

https://twitter.com/GPIngersoll/stat...18658694471680

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Watching these dopey socialist/marxist protestors really affirms the view that capitalists really should be running things.

As far as I can tell, these guys want the Loser Class to run things.

And the Trump rally attendees give you warm fuzzies?

Unchecked capitalism isn’t the answer to everything. Neither is full out socialism.

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And the Trump rally attendees give you warm fuzzies?

Unchecked capitalism isn’t the answer to everything. Neither is full out socialism.

Trump voters aren't very good at capitalism. Neither is trump.

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Correct, that’s how wars are fought and spoilers go to the victors. The white settlers literally built North American civilization out of nothing, how much longer must “we” pay back reparations to people that were ill treated hundreds of years ago? The madness must end and we need to move on. Giving people special status because their relatives a long long time ago were mistreated is racist in itself. THAT is being born to privilege.

it's a bit ironic your upset at the special priviledge FN get when the entire purpose of the indian act was to annihilate and remove first nation history. Its sole purpose was designed to eradicate the indian.

Now that it's not convenient for some we must change things? LOL. Let me grab you a tissue for your tears.

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it's a bit ironic your upset at the special priviledge FN get when the entire purpose of the indian act was to annihilate and remove first nation history. Its sole purpose was designed to eradicate the indian.

Now that it's not convenient for some we must change things? LOL. Let me grab you a tissue for your tears.

Tears? Hardly lol. The FN, despite all the help they get from the government, are their own enemy. It’s not the white man they have to fear anymore, it’s themselves. How much longer can their reserve system survive, I doubt it’ll make it to the end of the century.

Looks like the CHAZ or whatever zone it’s called in Seattle is getting shut down finally. Multiple people dead, blocks vandalized, who knows how many assaulted, all for nothing. Bunch of whiny little liberal idiots with nothing more than Arts degrees and no job.