AMG to use F1 turbo technology in road cars

[bjstare]

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Yupp, fake exhaust and/or engine sound generators have been a thing now for a while on numerous vehicles - put your hand up if you're a beyond member with a vehicle that has electronic sound generators. You know you're out there, hell, some of you may not even know you're out there.

German car with sound generator, checking in.

I have it turned off though.

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I wish I had fake sounds.

[killramos]

GTI had an in engine bay noise maker

M235i had interior sound in the speakers due to sound deadening, actually sounded pretty good outside.

C63S... if it had fake sound in the speakers I couldn’t hear it over the sound of the AMG V8 lol

Pretty sure my truck has nothing?

Mustang definitely has nothing

Lexus sounds faker than a Thai hooker

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GTI had an in engine bay noise maker

M235i had interior sound in the speakers due to sound deadening, actually sounded pretty good outside.

C63S... if it had fake sound in the speakers I couldn’t hear it over the sound of the AMG V8 lol

Pretty sure my truck has nothing?

Mustang definitely has nothing

Lexus sounds faker than a Thai hooker

Mercedes doesn’t do fake engine noise, sort of. If you opt for the acoustic comfort package, it will amplify the engine noise over the speaker though. Apparently the acoustic comfort package is so good you can’t hear shit.

[speedog]

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Mercedes doesn’t do fake engine noise, sort of. If you opt for the acoustic comfort package, it will amplify the engine noise over the speaker though. Apparently the acoustic comfort package is so good you can’t hear shit.

So if it's electronically copied engine noise, then it's real?

[killramos]

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So if it's electronically copied engine noise, then it's real?

it’s better than pumping the sound of a different engine into the interior lol.

Apparently with coding I could have made my 2 series sound like an M6 inside. That would have been hilarious.

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So if it's electronically copied engine noise, then it's real?

If you’re buying the acoustic comfort package to drown out outside noise, I don’t think that buyer would even think of the authenticity of engine noise. It’s literally just there for familiarity. But yea, piping in engine sounds from the stereo is surely more authentic than synthetic noises to sound aggressive.

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bump. Since we don't have a w206 C63 thread yet, this is prob the best place for this. Some details of the new 63 platform is starting to come out. Will make its debut in the 2022 C63 at the end of this year. 4Matic is standard. In top 63S trim, looking at 550hp, broken down in the following manner:

- 416hp from the M139 I4 turbo from the A45S.
- 201hp from rear electric motor. This is powered purely by the battery.
- 21hp from ISG, the stater/motor generator. This is only used at low revs.
- Turbo replaced with the "MGH-H" electric turbo, which is also featured in the AMG One. This will not dump power straight to the motor like in F1 or AMG One, but will be used exclusively to keep the hybrid battery charged.

3L/100km mixed fuel consumption with 65km of electric only range. The big downside is weight, balloons to 4400lbs, but offering 50:50 balance (finally).

[killramos]

Would have hoped for at least the straight 6 in top trim...

How does the AWD work? I’m assuming it’s not electric rear ICE front as that would be ridiculous.

I’m sure it will be fast but it sounds, or as least will sound, kindof meh aside from a techie angle. I can’t say I want one.

[Xtrema]

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How does the AWD work? I’m assuming it’s not electric rear ICE front as that would be ridiculous.

Sounds like NSX or RAV4. Wonder if the battery placement is under rear seat and a smaller fuel tank or come out of the trunk area. 65km sounds like it'll be 16-20kwh battery.

4400 is a bit heavy too. Consider Model 3 Performance is only a bit over 4000.

Sound? All European cars already got neutered on that regardless of drivetrain.

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Electric motor is rear wheel only. ISG is tied to the ICE, which drive the 4matic system for AWD, so front wheel is purely ICE powered. Drift mode disengages power to the front for full RWD.

[ExtraSlow]

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Electric motor is rear wheel only. ISG is tied to the ICE, which drive the 4matic system for AWD, so front wheel is purely ICE powered. Drift mode disengages power to the front for full RWD.

Is rear axle only electric, meaning drift mode is electric only? Or is there a driveshaft going backwards?

[killramos]

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Is rear axle only electric, meaning drift mode is electric only? Or is there a driveshaft going backwards?

Not going to be drifting a 4400lb car much with a 200HP electric motor.

[ExtraSlow]

Yeah, probably true, I'm bad at maths.

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4matic from ICE and ISG goes front and rear wheels. Electric motor rear wheels only. Not sure how that all integrates together and why they didn't replace the ISG with a 200hp version instead so that the total power runs thru 4matic. I'm not an engineer.

[riander5]

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4matic from ICE and ISG goes front and rear wheels. Electric motor rear wheels only. Not sure how that all integrates together and why they didn't replace the ISG with a 200hp version instead so that the total power runs thru 4matic. I'm not an engineer.

Arent they saving the weight of an extra motor by running RWD only?

[Xtrema]

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Arent they saving the weight of an extra motor by running RWD only?

But adds the mechanical linkage/weight by keeping the shaft for ICE to drive the rear.

They do promise a mid 3 0-100. Still trying to wrap my head around how the rear motor comes in play if rear wheels are also driven by ICE.

[riander5]

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But adds the mechanical linkage/weight by keeping the shaft for ICE to drive the rear.

They do promise a mid 3 0-100. Still trying to wrap my head around how the rear motor comes in play if rear wheels are also driven by ICE.

Wrap a belt around the driveshaft

[rage2]

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But adds the mechanical linkage/weight by keeping the shaft for ICE to drive the rear.

They do promise a mid 3 0-100. Still trying to wrap my head around how the rear motor comes in play if rear wheels are also driven by ICE.

ICE drives all wheels. Electric just rear. It's just leaks right now so it could be wrong. Some vague details on how it works:

https://media.daimler.com/marsMediaS...l?oid=41475240

Basically 2 input shafts, one pre transmission (from ICE + ISG) and one post transmission (electric motor). Probably post 4matic as well if it's RWD only. All packaged in one single transmission/4matic unit.

[bjstare]

I think it sounds great, albeit the 4cyl thing really doesn't do it for me.

I can also imagine what the out of warranty repair bills are going to look like