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    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
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    The key is to let @shakalaka buy it first and then buy it off him 3 months later.

    All this Porsche talk and Now I miss my 911. Why do I do this to myself
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    Shak doesn’t lose money on cars, everyone knows this
    well he knows it anyways

    Always winning every transaction.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    I will teach you kids the trick one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max_boost View Post
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    All this Porsche talk and Now I miss my 911. Why do I do this to myself
    Because you're being a man and doing the right thing, as Russell would say. No point owning waste of $ crap like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
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    Other manufacturers are guilty of that too though, especially the Americans. They take 7-year-old rental car platforms and option them up to $100K.

    Ford Mustang: 3.5X between base car and GT500

    C8 Corvette will probably be roughly a 3X multiplier between the base model and a ZR1. Guessing here based on previous models.

    When they still made the Ford Focus there was about 3X between the base model and RS.

    Dodge Challenger base vs Hellcat is 3X (about the same for Charger too)

    Ford F150 is 4X between the base model and a range-topping Superduty

    Porsche is probably the worst 'offender' of the Germans though. MB/Audi/BMW are mostly around 2X.
    This is how I ended up with an AMG GTS.

    If I buy a Porsche now, I think I buy a stripper 911.

    But whenever I build out a porsche on the website, I see all these dumb vanity options, and I remind myself that they only do douchenozzle options because there is a market for them in porsche-land. Then I'm like, waitaminute, I'm looking at 911s, so I go look at myself in the mirror. They may as well include a link to the vanity-plate ordering web-page while they are at it.

    It's one of the reasons I have been so interested in the 570s. It's a $200k car built on a $500k car platform. Rather than a $500k car built on a $200k platform. The GT4 suffers a bit from this, as does the M3, C63 etc. Doesn't make them bad choices, but you're not optimizing the platform. I did make an exception to this rule when I bought the GLA45 - but I couldn't find anything from a higher base model platform that fit the same function, so I rolled with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    If I buy a Porsche now, I think I buy a stripper 911.
    But then you think, man I really like the sound and power of that GT3 engine. So you spec out a GT3RS, but that's too douchy. So you decide to have a look at the GT3 touring, but then remember you have kids. So you think maybe the 911 Turbo would be the compromise... and around and around we go.

    But seriously, the base 992 is a lot of car. The 992S is what 444hp to the rear wheels of a widebody 911? That's pretty awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    This is how I ended up with an AMG GTS.

    If I buy a Porsche now, I think I buy a stripper 911.

    But whenever I build out a porsche on the website, I see all these dumb vanity options, and I remind myself that they only do douchenozzle options because there is a market for them in porsche-land. Then I'm like, waitaminute, I'm looking at 911s, so I go look at myself in the mirror. They may as well include a link to the vanity-plate ordering web-page while they are at it.

    It's one of the reasons I have been so interested in the 570s. It's a $200k car built on a $500k car platform. Rather than a $500k car built on a $200k platform. The GT4 suffers a bit from this, as does the M3, C63 etc. Doesn't make them bad choices, but you're not optimizing the platform. I did make an exception to this rule when I bought the GLA45 - but I couldn't find anything from a higher base model platform that fit the same function, so I rolled with it.
    I'd take a 570S over most Porsche for the same reasons, and it's just way more interesting/exclusive. The Porsche would probably be cheaper to own and less annoying to service though.

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    I think I've nailed down what my next car will be - but I doubt it happens this season. I'm also enjoying the extra spot in the garage.

    Also have to wait for one to come up for sale in my spec...

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    don't be shy...

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    I’ve always wanted a P car but the ones that I can afford are shite. I really like the new Boxster GTS 4.0 but it would be hard not spend half as much on a S2 Elise for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002civic View Post
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    don't be shy...
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    ff
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    I hate talking abotu shit before it happens, lol...especially if its a "next year" thing.

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    Nice choice, room for the kids and golf clubs! and yeah makes sense. I'm looking for next year too (not FF territory though). Change my mind every few weeks though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002civic View Post
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    Nice choice, room for the kids and golf clubs! and yeah makes sense. I'm looking for next year too (not FF territory though). Change my mind every few weeks though.
    Golf? I don't play golf, lol.

    But I think it would be a good Calgary car. More of a GT than a track focused toy with no track and no interesting canyons.

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    GT would be sweet I agree.

    2 door, barely useable back seat if any.

    Preferably with lots of Noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    I hate talking abotu shit before it happens, lol...especially if its a "next year" thing.
    haha fair but unlike most ppl who are all talk, this Buster is legit

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    Nice choice, room for the kids and golf clubs! and yeah makes sense. I'm looking for next year too (not FF territory though). Change my mind every few weeks though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Golf? I don't play golf, lol.

    But I think it would be a good Calgary car. More of a GT than a track focused toy with no track and no interesting canyons.
    Just figured a finance guy plays golf in this town, my bad lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002civic View Post
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    Just figured a finance guy plays golf in this town, my bad lol
    what are you looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    They aren't kidding when they call it a base car. Plain steering wheel with no buttons, not even single zone climate control, 150W audio system, no even wireless charging, 2-way power seats, plain xenon headlights, and the interior is all cheap for this money plastic. Porsche knows what they are doing though as they make a killing once you select options to bring their vehicles up to par for features with say a Honda Accord.
    The GT4 is a GT car. You don't need/want all those options in this car.

    If those options are a priority, a GT car is definitely not what you are looking for. The GTS would be a much better option like you said on the other comment.






    The 718 GT4 is great but personally, it landed on a weird spot on the market (Price wise)

    A 718 GT4 with decent options will easily hit 135k and when you add GST on top of it, you pretty much land on the 991.1 GT3 price bracket.

    Also, you could buy a C8 for 80k (some options) and get much more performance. Probably not as good of a driving experience but can't compare the performance.

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