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    Acceleration figures were more interesting when it was not a cheap commodity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    I'm surprised how many people use launch control on their vehicles on a somewhat regular basis. Forums and facebook groups I've been on with cars that have DSG or autos with launch control are full of people that seem to do it on a regular basis. There's threads at Bimmerpost dedicated to it. It's an occasional thing for me but on most autos today are pretty efficient at launching compared to say dumping the clutch on a manual equipped AWD vehicle. Road and Track did 50 straight launches back to back on a 911 turbo and it was by their words as quick on the 30th as it was on the first. Granted not all vehicles are built to that standard but most vehicles with launch control should be able to reliably perform the task without causing major or long term damage. 5-60 is a good indicator of ability to get going from a green light for sure but outside of C&D most auto media focus on only 0-60 and 1/4 mile times so it's not as readily available of a metric. It's very notable on a vehicle such as an STI that can have a 4.6 sec 0-60 time and a 6.6 second 5-60 time.
    That's wild that it's that common. I have a DSG w/ launch control in my car, and I have zero interest in using it. My car is enough fun as is, it's not worth the abuse IMO. I guess I'm just projecting my own aversion to using it on everyone else haha.

    I'm pretty sure there's a video out there of someone doing 100 consecutive launches in a porsche turbo with the PDK; that drivetrain is the exception to the rule though. I'd be flabbergasted if there's another one out there that can do that many launches without self destructing.

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    My Jeep has a launch button on the console, it’s fun to bounce it off the two step on occasion but it actually gets out of the hole faster, from idle. I’m sure I could lower the rev limiter to help with wheel spin but whatevs.
    I like neat cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    I’d like to drive one. Despite them accelerating fast, I’m interested in the sensation with a complete lack of noise and how it compares to something like my Jeep where half the fun is the roar of the engine, whine of the blower and blap when it shifts.
    Put on noise cancelling headphones, put the car in auto sportiest mode and go for a drive. Feels 80% like an EV.

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    Isn't bmw the only company to have wireless Carplay? Seems awesome
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    Them, also VW, Mercedes, Ford, FCA. It’s just not that widespread.
    Mercedes announced it but delayed. Think some of the newer Audi’s have it. Ford didn’t seem to have it when I was looking at the explorer. Just wired. BMWs setup works so well in the 850 I test drove.
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    I've never ever launched any of my cars. Which now that I think about it, is kinda sad.

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    Subscription features? I can't think of a faster way to have people stop buying your cars. What a nightmare. That would instantly rule out those vehicles for me personally.

    As for 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, I think most people realize that those numbers mean nothing to 99% of people who do not race their cars and do not have the skill to achieve the advertised times (exception perhaps being certain launch controls). What it does do is give people an idea of what the vehicle's performance will be like, so it's still somewhat useful overall IMO. I also think some people get satisfaction in knowing their car is capable of something, even though they may never achieve it.

    5-60 time is probably the most relevant to the average person as stoplight to stoplight driving is what the vast majority of people do most of the time, but still it's not like there are many opportunities to test that out and often the 0-60 times you see in magazines are abusive launches. Most launch controls aren't designed to be used frequently (Porsche the obvious exception). Nowadays though, you have family sedans and cheap econo-boxes in the 5-6 second range and expensive Civics putting up exotic-beating times around the race track, so it's pretty easy to get adequate power in almost anything. Most of the exotics are competing in a range where nobody can tell a difference without testing equipment and it's way less interesting than it used to be IMO.

    Personally I couldn't care less about 0-60 and 1/4 mile times as I will never actually test that out, I like having decent torque over a relatively wide RPM range because that is what you actually use when driving around most of the time and good torque delivery makes cars feel faster than they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    Mercedes announced it but delayed. Think some of the newer Audi’s have it. Ford didn’t seem to have it when I was looking at the explorer. Just wired. BMWs setup works so well in the 850 I test drove.
    It's a game changer IMO if you regularly use CarPlay or Android Auto (should be available this month or next). I'm really surprised that other luxury automakers aren't offering it as you get in your car, turn it on and it connects seamlessly and defaults to CarPlay. Combined with a wireless charger and you never need cables in your car unless it's to charge back seat phones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shakalaka View Post
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    I've never ever launched any of my cars. Which now that I think about it, is kinda sad.
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    Just saw this on Instagram... Well fuck there goes my hope the M3 wouldn’t inherit the buck teeth from its brother.

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    M3 Left M4 Right
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Yea lots of higher res photos all over the internet. I love the green and headlights, but the grille is awful. Maybe BMW will put stupid residuals and low rates to lease them out for cheap...otherwise I don't know how they plan to move them.

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    Wtf are they thinking

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    yuk

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    I heard the interior looks cheap.
    LoL!

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    oh gross.

    BMW, wtf has happened to you?

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    This is from a 2 series, and not from the new M3/M4
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    This is the actual interior which I don't mind. The seats look more orange than brown in this pic though...
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    Happy the manual is still there, but gone are the subtle E92 looks. Yukz

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    I really had hoped to pick up the new M3 too. This is probably the final nail in the coffin for that plan.

    Guess I need to buy a track hawk or something.
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    I hope the quoted weights I’m seeing are EU Kerb Weight and not DIN.

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    Curb isn't a valid word anymore?

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