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    If the teachers go on strike, my expectation is that Kenney goes REagan and fires them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Yea you are probably fucked in a strike, my wife is in the same boat, as strike pay is prorated based on hours worked in past 2 months (even assuming that’s may and June that’s 0 for pretty much every sub in the system).

    I wonder if the union will make an exemption and give subs strike pay anyway to prevent them from being a block voting against further strikes.

    One of the interesting ones my wife was telling me is schools and teachers can get in a ton of shit for having alcohol based cleaners at schools. So there goes any hope of the cleaning being inexpensive unless they repeal that rule. Can’t even have some hand sanitizer on you apparently. Not sure if that’s a board wide thing or was just her school but that sounded kindof fucked up (I don’t know how I am surprised by any BS the CBE pulls anymore).
    Been in office last 2 days and smell like wino coming out after a day of sanitizer and cleaning solution cleaning desks/table before and after every meeting. Be fucked if I run into any checkstops after work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Been in office last 2 days and smell like wino coming out after a day of sanitizer and cleaning solution cleaning desks/table before and after every meeting. Be fucked if I run into any checkstops after work.
    I smell like a wino because I have been doing the woke thing and taking my alcohol internally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Irrelevant as there is no way the teachers don’t strike this fall.
    Was just going to say... pretty sure there is going to be a strike.

    What a time to be a student in Alberta tho. Imagine all that free time to waste away.
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    Jsut curious as to why people think the teachers will strike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    Jsut curious as to why people think the teachers will strike?
    They don’t want to work / to spite Kenney

    Their contract is up the 31st no?

    I figured with the UCP in they were striking no matter what, now that they have a reason to harp on it seems inevitable.
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    Fire them all if so

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    They don’t want to work / to spite Kenney

    Their contract is up the 31st no?

    I figured with the UCP in they were striking no matter what, now that they have a reason to harp on it seems inevitable.
    That's my take as well. They may have worked without contract before but I got feeling they will pull the safety card on this one and I don't see enough being done to address teacher's concerns from yesterday's briefing.

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    Fire them all if so
    Well, we kinda did it for the last 4 months. I am sure there are a lot of happy parents in those 4 months. Let's do it for another 10.

    Again, don't have a horse in this race. If more people has to stay home, more office space for me. Bonus.

    Do I get 50% off prop tax if 2020/21 school year is cancelled?
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    You don’t keep paying people when you fire them lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    You don’t keep paying people when you fire them lol
    I think he meant more of the "Parents haven't had government paid full-time daycare for 4 months and they're already going insane" aspect.

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    Some teachers are very worried about the return to school, some are making wills and getting insurance policies, the government return to school plan is hot garbage at best

    Personally, I'm wanting to aim for the online return, too many people and it's obvious on this forum think Covid is a hoax
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    If schools are open for in-person learning, then my kids are going because my leeway to work from home is only because I cannot get childcare. I guess I coukd retire, but the four-ish years I spent mostly unemployed kinda ate into my savings.

    Now the whole " teachers feel scared" and "teachers don't trust the plan" thing might prevent that. But if schools let me kids go, they are going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    They don’t want to work / to spite Kenney

    Their contract is up the 31st no?

    I figured with the UCP in they were striking no matter what, now that they have a reason to harp on it seems inevitable.
    I want to work... but in a safe environment, which based on many of your complaints of smelling of wino is a valid thing to want. As for the contract, it's kinda irrelevant. Many who pursue teaching don't do it for the money, hell I certainly don't do it to get rich, but it is rewarding. The biggest issue is this government has made it more than clear they don't value public education.

    Striking wont really solve some of the issues I have highlighted though, it will just keep people safe. Myself being a severe asthmatic, I find the back to school plan here in Alberta very very lacking
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    So more beyond armchair activism at work again?

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    For sure the best way to show your support for public education is... Going on strike.

    The government is shitty at everything. Public education is no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    For sure the best way to show your support for public education is... Going on strike.

    The government is shitty at everything. Public education is no different.
    Maybe you need to reread or you missed something, but I never said I'm in support of a strike.

    I'm a substitute at this time unfortunately, so a strike will do nothing more than fuck me financially. I also grew up in a union household, but I would let @speedog comment on that shot show...
    Originally posted by speedog
    So more beyond armchair activism at work again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalibuStacy View Post
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    I want to work... but in a safe environment, which based on many of your complaints of smelling of wino is a valid thing to want. As for the contract, it's kinda irrelevant. Many who pursue teaching don't do it for the money, hell I certainly don't do it to get rich, but it is rewarding. The biggest issue is this government has made it more than clear they don't value public education.

    Striking wont really solve some of the issues I have highlighted though, it will just keep people safe. Myself being a severe asthmatic, I find the back to school plan here in Alberta very very lacking
    Excuse me for moving past the whole covid angle, I’m so fried on the topic I have less than no interest in discussing it.

    I stand by my statement that I think the ATA would have gone on strike this fall to spite Kenney even if the world was sunshine, puppy dogs and rainbows.

    The fact that they have any sort of reason (safe environment) to lean on just cements that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalibuStacy View Post
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    Maybe you need to reread or you missed something, but I never said I'm in support of a strike.

    I'm a substitute at this time unfortunately, so a strike will do nothing more than fuck me financially. I also grew up in a union household, but I would let @speedog comment on that shot show...
    Me statement was general.... Not directed at you. Sorry for the confusion

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    Feels like all of the protective measures they're forcing on us are a complete waste of time if they're sending the snot monsters back to congregate together .... I won't be surprised to see teachers strike ... I sure wouldn't want to be penned in with the snot monsters all day, that's 100% chance of covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.alex View Post
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    Feels like all of the protective measures they're forcing on us are a complete waste of time if they're sending the snot monsters back to congregate together
    More of a "The economy can't recover until our government paid daycare (school) is back in session, so parents can get back to work" situation.

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    Schools perform two critical functions: education and unlocking economic capacity.

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